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Halloween increases risk of pedestrian fatalities by 43%: Children are 10 times more likely to be run over, study finds 

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A new study from the University of British Columbia in Canada has found that children between ages four and eight are 10 times more likely to be struck by a car on Halloween.


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 It at all boils down to one thing, are we going to obey God or not. Do we believe that we have a special relationship with God that we can do whatever we want to do and still be forgiven, or do we believe that God inspired to be  written in the Bible? If one does not believe in God, then go do what you want to do. If you believe in Buddha,  do what  Buddha says to do. If you believe in Christ, thn do what Christ says to do. I think it is that easy. Christ said many on Judgment Day, who believed in him, did miracles in his name, and expected to be part of the saved, will be told by Christ to go to hell! Why? Because they refused to what he told them to do, which was to of obey the LAW and listen to what he says to do.
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k... I wont answer that...lol
 
"Do you think adults are evil that dress up as some ghoulish character for one night and then put their 3 piece suit on Monday morning and go off to wall street to conduct business."
 
I don't think they are very into living as God has asked. I think they are more into doing what pleases them instead of God.
 
I agree, we don't know what they look like. But we do know that Satan was a beautiful angel who was with God. We also know that by the ethnicity of Christ, He most certainly would NOT have had long hair or a beard (But, if we read the Bible, it does tell us what He looks like, hair as white as snow, etc).
 
Dressing up as some bloody ghoulish creature gives credence to Satan because of the negative light in which the costume portrays. Dressing up in any costume (part of the pagan ceremony) on the very night meant for evil doesn't give the Lord any glory either.
 
We are to live for God, not ourselves. We should always strive to live for Him, glorifying His name. While this isn't always easy to do, doing something blatant as dressing up as a ghoulish character on the night of evil is something we can avoid and in doing so we serve God in a greater way.   :0)


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I have 2 kids. My son LOVES to play dress-up with costumes. I have absolutely no problem with my children playing in costumes, as long as it's not during the Halloween season. They can do it any other time of the year as far as I am concerned.

 

So, if they dress up in a ghoulish outfit, it's ok as long as it's not during halloween?............Don't answer this..............I know what you mean! 
 
Do you think adults are evil that dress up as some ghoulish character for one night and then put their 3 piece suit on Monday morning and go off to wall street to conduct business? I don't do it, but then that's just me. If they dress up and don't play out any act that represents the character they're portraying, I have no problem with "them" doing so. Many people do this with no intention of giving credence to that character. to be honest, no one knows what the "devil" looks like.......it's a man made portrayal of what they think the devil looks like............kinda like portraying Jesus as this beautiful person with a halo around his head. If you were to research his ethnicity, the perfect & beautiful pictures would not be accurate. God bless you and your family as you strive to live a Godly life. I also make that a goal of mine!


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I have 2 kids. My son LOVES to play dress-up with costumes. I have absolutely no problem with my children playing in costumes, as long as it's not during the Halloween season. They can do it any other time of the year as far as I am concerned.

I agree with Bob too. Grown-ups like to dress up and go to parties... and while it may be fun, what good comes of it? What kind of glory does God get when you dress as a bloody ghoul or the Playboy bunny?

 
I admit to not always practicing what I preach, but in my heart, I would rather forgo the 'fun' of the world and live as God has asked us to do. It is the very least I can do considering what He has done for me.

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Actors are paid to lie! Never forget that. Yes, I do have my favorite actors, and I think there are those who play roles that mirror themselves, but for the most part they "play a part," and play make believe. Maybe this is why so many actors have mental problems! The only movies I watch tend to be those with a Godly message, or sometimes just farcical humor.  Same with the music I listen to.

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Bob, I really agree with you, mostly, because I know the history of pagan holidays. Halloween is the most controversial! There are others...i.e. christmas, easter, etc, but you won't hear any protest about these. BTW, I don't do costume parties either. Curious as to how you feel about hollywood and those actors that pretend dressing up as all sort of characters. I don't do movies either. Waste of money as far as I'm concerned.


"I'm not saying that they are wrong, but why pretend you are something you are not? There is a time we are to grow up, and I'm afraid that adults today just don't grow up!"
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Bob, I really agree with you, mostly, because I know the history of pagan holidays. Halloween is the most controversial! There are others...i.e. christmas, easter, etc, but you won't hear any protest about these. BTW, I don't do costume parties either. Curious as to how you feel about hollywood and those actors that pretend dressing up as all sort of characters. I don't do movies either. Waste of money as far as I'm concerned.


"I'm not saying that they are wrong, but why pretend you are something you are not? There is a time we are to grow up, and I'm afraid that adults today just don't grow up!"
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I'm not trying to judge... That being said, I never been to a costume party, and again I see no sense in one. I'm not saying that they are wrong, but why pretend you are something you are not? There is a time we are to grow up, and I'm afraid that adults today just don't grow up! I think that the recent history of following pagan customs have much to do with this trend. Let me explain. Christmas and Halloween are really LESS than 100 years old in this country! One could easily draw a graph comparing the decline of America with the incline of our culture adopting European (mostly pagan) holidays.  I know this sounds radical, but study history and you will see just how modern our holidays in this country really are! If we can blame "throwing God out of our schools," with school prayer as a cause of our nations decline (and by the way I DO NOT HOLD THAT TO BE 100% TRUE!) then, the same correlation can be made in my above example! I think if you see just how much this nation has changed in the last 100 years, from the first 100 years, most of us would be astonished. Thanks for your input.

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"protect yourself from the harm that may befall you."

Walking across a steet without any regard for the traffic is doing harm that may befall you.  Understanding your Christian principles and applying them in all you do is another thing. I grew up in a Christian home. I knew from the start as a kid what some people thought about Halloween. My folks were well grounded in Christian principles and taught me the same. I never gave any thought to worshipping the devil or any such rot when I went trick or treating. I applied Christian principles........i.e. I respected peoples property. If they didn't want to give out treats, I went to houses that enjoyed watching kids have fun. It was that and nothing more. Let me ask this.........what about costume parties? Are they wrong? People do dress up and pretend. There's no sinister meaning behind it!



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"protect yourself from the harm that may befall you."

Walking across a steet without any regard for the traffic is doing harm that may befall you.  Understanding your Christian principles and applying them in all you do is another thing. I grew up in a Christian home. I knew from the start as a kid what some people thought about Halloween. My folks were well grounded in Christian principles and taught me the same. I never gave any thought to worshipping the devil or any such rot when I went trick or treating. I applied Christian principles........i.e. I respected peoples property. If they didn't want to give out treats, I went to houses that enjoyed watching kids have fun. It was that and nothing more. Let me ask this.........what about costume parties? Are they wrong? People do dress up and pretend. There's no sinister meaning behind it!



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Your right, if God agreed with you. However, I don't think he does. There is a difference in doing things that do no harm, and doing things that we are warned against doing.  I had Halloween's as a kid, didn't ruin me. I grew up in the 60's and 70's all around pot and drugs--I never used them at all. I admit,  I have watched porno movies, I didn't become some sex killing monster. But was any of what I witnessed GOOD FOR ME? Now that is the question! I think much of what I witnessed, did and didn't do growing up was not good for me. That is what God says. Learn to live a life the way God says is best, and protect yourself from the harm that may befall you.

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Happymamma...I'm not thin skinned, so I don't take what you've said personally. I just think (for kids) the darkside of Halloween has lost all meaning and so I don't put any dark meaning to it. Secular adults are the ones that put meaning to it. I do think making more out of it than what's there only makes those that participate in the actual rituals even more determined to continue to do the bizzarre things they do. You're not going to change them and if I treat it as nothing more than what I've always done, ( kids dressing up in "fun" costumes asking for candy) then I see no harm.

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Happymamma...I'm not thin skinned, so I don't take what you've said personally. I just think (for kids) the darkside of Halloween has lost all meaning and so I don't put any dark meaning to it. Secular adults are the ones that put meaning to it. I do think making more out of it than what's there only makes those that participate in the actual rituals even more determined to continue to do the bizzarre things they do. You're not going to change them and if I treat it as nothing more than what I've always done, ( kids dressing up in "fun" costumes asking for candy) then I see no harm.

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LYNNE!!!! You found his TRUE likeness!


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Hallowe’en is the devil’s work, Catholic church warns parents


When Victoria Romero, 6, dressed up as a witch for a Hallowe’en party this week she could hardly have imagined that she was provoking the wrath of God by attending a celebration akin to a Black Mass — at least in the eyes of the Vatican and the Roman Catholic Church in Spain.

Wearing skeleton suits, dressing up as vampires, witches or goblins or slapping on fake blood is not far removed from communing with the Devil, according to the country’s bishops.

However, the bishops, with Vatican backing, have reserved their venom for the millions of parents who allowed their children to celebrate this “pagan” festival.

Father Joan María Canals, the director of the Spanish Bishops Conference Committee on Liturgy, condemned parents for permitting their children to go to “un-Christian” parties when they should be focusing on All Saints Day today and All Souls Day on Monday.


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article6897422.ece



That's irony at it's best, considering it was the Catholic church that put a Christian name on Halloween!!

Midnight Shadow, while I respect your views about Halloween (and what I am about to write isn't directed at you personally, but at people who think it's ok), it is precisely that kind of 'it's ok to celebrate it because it's nothing but fun' attitude that has led to the collapse of true Christianity in general. Our Lord tells us to not participate in things that other 'people's' (religions) do. Halloween was a pagan night of celebration to bring about the dead souls, evil souls, and sacrificing to Satan children and maidens to keep those evils away. What kind of glory does that give God? NONE. It gives it to Satan.  The Lord also made it very clear that by turning a pagan celebration into a Christian one, giving it a Christian name (All's Hallow Eve) is actually an abomination to Him. Abominations are things that God abhors, or hates.
Any little bit like dressing up and trick-or-treating or going to Halloween or even Harvest festivals/parties are a signal to Satan that you don't really care what God says, and he relishes those things.

As a Christian, we are to do ALL things in a way that is pleasing to God. What is pleasing to God on a night made for evil? Nothing. It is the attitude of lax Christians who see it as a night of fun, mainly because they want to conform to the world (which is easier than standing for the Lord), when really, they should see it as a night that saddens God.

While you said, "I went trick or treating as a child and I've suffered no harm.", you need to see the 'bigger picture'. The 'harm' might not be seen while you are on this earth, but it will be seen when you are standing before God and have to tell Him why you went against His wishes because 'it was fun'.

I am not trying to come against you, Midnight, honestly... I am only trying to generalize why that kind of attitude is what is wrong with this world today. Christ didn't exactly trick-or-treat (even though the pagan rituals were going on in His time), neither should we.


Just my ever-opinionated two-cents.


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Hallowe’en is the devil’s work, Catholic church warns parents


When Victoria Romero, 6, dressed up as a witch for a Hallowe’en party this week she could hardly have imagined that she was provoking the wrath of God by attending a celebration akin to a Black Mass — at least in the eyes of the Vatican and the Roman Catholic Church in Spain.

Wearing skeleton suits, dressing up as vampires, witches or goblins or slapping on fake blood is not far removed from communing with the Devil, according to the country’s bishops.

However, the bishops, with Vatican backing, have reserved their venom for the millions of parents who allowed their children to celebrate this “pagan” festival.

Father Joan María Canals, the director of the Spanish Bishops Conference Committee on Liturgy, condemned parents for permitting their children to go to “un-Christian” parties when they should be focusing on All Saints Day today and All Souls Day on Monday.


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article6897422.ece


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Real Witches Practice Samhain: Wicca on the Rise in U.S.-10/31 ABC, More Americans Are Wiccan, and Will Celebrate Samhain, Not Halloween, Saturday ...
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I understand the history behind halloween, but I went trick or treating as a child and I've suffered no harm. I'm still a Christian and so are my children. When I participated it was nothing more than dressing up and trying to get candy and doing stupid harmless things if we didn't get any. We never did anything harmful to anyone, our parents would have made us go back and rectify it if they didn't kill us first. Now days kids don't have any clue of the same concept we did when I grew up. They just know they get candy for dressing up and holding a sack for you to fill up. I had a young man to come to the door and he didn't even say trick or treat til I prompted him and when I said trick, he thought I meant he was to perform a trick, so he started dancing. I cracked up and gave him extra. Most kids don't dress up as some goulish monster any more. My granddaughter dressed as a Jonas Bros groupie. Had a little sequoined hat on and had Jonas Bros written in crayon on her face. To keep kids from having to go house to house with the possibility of getting something dangerous from some sicko, our church puts on a program called trunk & treat in which the kids go from car to car in the church parking lot to get their candy and fellowship with each other. 

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This is  an excellent article by Bob.  Halloween is not some innocent children's holiday but in fact Satan's holiday. The evil that we tolerate on this day each year is an atrocity to God and to any decency we have as a people. I  hope that our readers here understand the seriousness of those who want to observe these evil holidays. It is even worse, when we attach Christ and his church to them. God bless you for doing the work  in bringing the truth, yes The Plain Truth  to your readers.
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I agree, Bob. Even to celebrate it with a 'Harvest Festival' or the like is still giving satan his day.
 
A friend of mine gave me a hard time because I didn't want my children to dress up. They said to just tell them it's a 'fun dress up day' and explain to them that's all it is. I kept telling them that in good conscience, I cannot do that. It's a pagan evil holiday, and I don't want my children thinking it's a good thing. My mother-in-law is angered because she believes we are taking away all of her grandson's child-hood fun. I am sorry, but me and my house, will not conform to the world. My child's eternal life starts in my hands.
 
Even giving just the smallest inch gives satan miles.

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That has been the focus of the front page. Here is what I wrote about Halloween:

Halloween is not harmless...
"Trick or treat," we've all heard that, haven't we? Has anyone ever figured out, that not only is Halloween  pagan to the core, it also is a study in DemocraticParty propaganda and education. "Trick or treat," simply means to give me something that I want, or I will do you harm. Jesse Jackson has made a fortune  "tricking in treating" himself. So has the Rev. Al Sharpton and of course theinfamous ACORN!  I guess maybe the real reason that liberals love thisholiday more than any holiday that we celebrate America, is that it is theclosest holiday which represents the way they run their lives. To these liberal, un-American, amoral, immoral and totally dishonest politicians and cohorts, Halloween and the practices of this holiday is exactly excellent training groundfor tomorrow's liberal terrorist. So when you send your child out tonight, in ghoulish costumes, representing the devil and all the evil in the world, and in your child promises to trick someone if they don't get "treated" sends a message to your child more frightening than the holiday itself. The messageyour child gets is that in order to get a free lunch, one must be willing to practice terrorism, or at least threaten it. Halloween is not an innocent holidayfor us to observe and to enjoy. It is not harmless either. Each year hundreds of children are injured and maimed by sick people that put razor blades, Needlesand pins inside candy treats. How in good conscience can you allow children to go to strangers' homes, and accept anything that they will eat? If that is notchild abuse I don't know what it's. It's time this country gets serious about itslack of morals, and its lack of godliness. Wake up, read the article below, andput a stop to this harmful pagan holiday.                        


So here is today's DRUDGE:



Obamas host Halloween event at orange White House...


America, there is a God, and the true God will not continue to allow this pagan worship!

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