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Obama Now Selling Judgeships for Health Care Votes?

Tonight, Barack Obama will host ten House Democrats who voted against the health care bill in November at the White House; he's obviously trying to persuade them to switch their votes to yes. One of the ten is Jim Matheson of Utah. The White House just sent out a press release announcing that today President Obama nominated Matheson's brother Scott M. Matheson, Jr. to the United States Court of Appeals for the Tenth Circuit.

http://weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-now-selling-appeals-court-judgeships-health-care-votes

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Obama threatens to advance health bill without GOP support
Says if voters unhappy with results, then 'that's what elections are for'
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GOP tells Obama: 'Start over' on health care
Prez urges bipartisan support to fix 'one of the biggest drags on the economy'
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Rahm-it-through: 'Big bill or nothing'
Congressional leaders to push massive, Democrats-only health-care plan
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'I'm the president ... I didn't count my time'
Watching clock: Democrats talk nearly twice as long as Republicans
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No public option in proposal to cover 31 million uninsured, limit rate hikes

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  Feb. 22: President Barack Obama put forth his latest plan to salvage health care reform on Monday, presenting a reworked bill that Republicans say is the same product, just repackaged. NBC White House Correspondent Savannah Guthrie reports.

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WASHINGTON - Starting over on health care, President Barack Obama knows his chances aren't looking much more promising.

A year after he called for a far-reaching overhaul, Obama unveiled his most detailed plan yet on Monday. Realistically, he's just hoping to win a big enough slice to silence the talk of a failing presidency.

The 10-year, $1 trillion plan, like the current Democratic version in the Senate, would bring health insurance to more than 31 million Americans who now lack it. Government insurance wouldn't be included, a problem for Democratic progressives. Republicans are skeptical about where the money would come from — and Obama's claim that the plan won't raise the federal deficit.

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Sen. Reid goes to a local GM dealer in Washington, D.C. With the intention of buying a brand new vehicle. Harry looks around and finds one he likes.
 
After going back and forth with the salesman, Harry settles on a price of 45,000.
 
 Harry and the salesman go back to the office to complete the paperwork. Harry works out a 4 year payment plan, and signs on the bottom line.
 
The salesman shakes Harry's hand and says, "Thanks Senator Reid, the car will be ready for pickup in 4 years."
 
Harry says, "What are you talking about? Where are the keys to my new car?"
 
The salesman replies, "No, you don't understand Senator. You make payments for 4 years...THEN we give you the car. You know, just like your health plan".
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Democrats vow to resurrect health care bill


WASHINGTON – Giving up on overhauling the nation's health care system is not an option, the top House Democrat said Wednesday as lawmakers looked to President Barack Obama for guidance in his State of the Union address on how to revive the stalled legislation.

Asked if Congress might abandon a health care initiative beset with political and policy problems, Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., responded: "I don't see that as a possibility. We will have something."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100127/ap_on_bi_ge/us_health_care_overhaul


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Last night in closed-door secret negotiations, President Obama cut a sweetheart deal with the big labor unions to exempt them from taxes that this health care takeover will levy on millions of Americans.

In all the years I've been in the political world, I've never seen a deal this brazen, this outrageous - and of course they did it in secret.

If you haven't signed our petition to let C-SPAN cameras show the health care negotiations, please sign now. Click here to tell Congress and the administration it is way past time to let the American people see what is going on behind closed doors.

Taxing Americans' health insurance plans is one way Congress intends to pay for its health care takeover, which will cost us trillions of dollars. But the unions just couldn't stand to be treated like everyone else, and the Democrats agreed to exempt them from the insurance tax until 2018.

This is just wrong. We've all been waiting to see what kind of deals would make up the final health care bill - and this is blatant favoritism for a liberal special interest.

We haven't asked you to contact your members of Congress in awhile, but this is definitely worth a phone call, e-mail and letter. Tell your senators and representative not to give the unions special favors at taxpayers' expense!

Click HERE to call your senators and representative and click HERE to email them.

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Poll: Obama Health Care Marks Hit New Low...

Amish families 'exempt' from health insurance mandate...
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The legislation that the Senate passed Christmas Eve, which is expected to resemble closely the final bill that is hashed out between the House and Senate over the next month, would leave about 8 percent of the population under age 65 without health insurance, according to the nonpartisanCongressional Budget Office.
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Democratic Leaders Plan Secret Health Reform Deliberations

January 04, 2010 05:45 PM ET | Peter Roff, Bart Stupak | Permanent Link | Print
       

By Peter Roff, Thomas Jefferson Street blog

Despite their claims to the contrary, the way that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid have handled the healthcare bill has been anything but transparent. And, if the left-wing blogosphere is to be believed, the two congressional leaders intend to keep the deliberations secret as they try to merge the House and Senate versions of the legislation into something that will pass both chambers.

The Talking Points Memo website reported Monday that Democrats in both the House and Senate are saying the process will likely follow the path of the House taking up the Senate-passed legislation, amending it and sending it back to the Senate, which will have to pass it again. "This process cuts out the Republicans," a House Democratic aide told TPM, indicating the congressional majority intended to make sure the Republican minority would "not have a motion to recommit opportunity."


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Many of us knew this but it is nice to have some confirmation.

The  Truth About the Health Care Bills -  Michael Connelly, Ret. Constitutional Attorney

Well, I have done it!  I have read the entire text of proposed House Bill 3200: The Affordable  Health Care Choices Act of 2009. I studied it with particular emphasis from my  area of expertise, constitutional law.  I was frankly concerned that parts  of the proposed law that were being discussed might be unconstitutional. What I  found was far worse than what I had heard or expected.

To begin with, much of  what has been said about the law and its implications is in fact true, despite  what the Democrats and the media are saying. The law does provide for rationing of health care,  particularly where senior citizens and other classes of citizens are involved,  free health care for illegal immigrants, free abortion services, and probably  forced participation in abortions by members of the medical  profession.

The Bill will also  eventually force private insurance companies out of business, and put everyone  into a government run system.  All decisions about personal health care  will ultimately be made by federal bureaucrats, and most of them will not be  health care professionals.  Hospital admissions, payments to physicians,  and allocations of necessary medical devices will be strictly controlled by the  government.

However, as scary as  all of that is, it just scratches the surface.  In fact, I have concluded  that this legislation really has no intention of providing affordable health  care choices.  Instead it is a convenient cover for

the most massive  transfer of power to the Executive Branch of government that has ever occurred,  or even been contemplated  If this law or a similar one is adopted, major  portions of the Constitution of the United States will effectively have been  destroyed.

The first thing to go  will be the masterfully crafted balance of power between the Executive,  Legislative, and Judicial branches of the U.S. Government.  The Congress  will be transferring to the Obama Administration authority in a number of  different areas over the lives of the American people, and the businesses they  own.

The irony is that the  Congress doesn't have any  authority to legislate in most of those areas to begin with!  I defy anyone to read the text of the U.S. Constitution and find any  authority granted to the members of Congress to regulate health  care..

This legislation also  provides for access, by the appointees of the Obama administration, of all of  your personal healthcare information(direct  violation of the specific provisions of the 4th Amendment to the  Constitution) , your personal financial information,  and the information of your employer, physician, and hospital.  All of this  is a protecting against unreasonable searches and seizures.  You can also  forget about the right to privacy. That will have been legislated into  oblivion regardless of what the 3rd and 4th Amendments may provide.

If you decide not to  have healthcare insurance, or if you have private insurance that is not deemed  acceptable to the Health Choices Administrator appointed by Obama, there will be  a tax imposed on you.  It is called a  tax instead of a fine because of the intent to avoid application of the due process clause of the 5th Amendment. However, that  doesn't work because since there is nothing in the law that allows you to  contest or appeal the imposition of the tax, it is definitely depriving someone of property without the due process of law.

So,  there are three of those pesky amendments that the far left hate so much, out  the original ten in the Bill of Rights, that are effectively nullified by this  law  It doesn't  stop there though.

The  9th Amendment that provides: The  enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to  deny or disparage others retained by the people;

The  10th Amendment states: The powers not  delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the  States, are preserved to the States respectively, or to the people.  Under  the provisions of this piece of Congressional handiwork neither the people nor  the states are going to have any rights or powers at all in many areas that once  were theirs to control.

I could write many more pages about this legislation, but I think you get the idea. This is not about health care; it is about seizing power and limiting rights. Article 6 of the Constitution requires the members of both houses of Congress to "be bound by oath or affirmation to support the Constitution." If I was a member of Congress I would not be able to vote for this legislation or anything like it, without feeling I was violating that sacred oath or affirmation. If I voted for it anyway, I would hope the American people would hold me accountable.

For those who might doubt the nature of this threat, I suggest they consult the source, the US Constitution, and Bill of Rights. There you can see exactly what we are about to have taken from us.

Michael Connelly Retired attorney, Constitutional Law Instructor Carrollton , Texas


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Generics chafe under big pharma's reform shadow
'Bill ... amounts to a treasure trove to brand drug companies'
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Healthcare is not a God-given right...nor should the govt be poking their noses into it because it IS unconstitutional for them to do so. It's obvious they have never been in a hospital ER before. If they had, they would realize that ppl with no insurance still get treated. They also have people who qualify for free care at the hospital or they get put onto a payment plan. I know because I have one of the payment plans AND I HAVE INSURANCE that I have to pay for!

Why don't they wake up and also realize that the things they want to do with healthcare is NOT what the healthcare system needs reformed. How can they be that blind?


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The Gathering Storm:

FOXNews.com - Health Care Bill Could Face String of Legal Challenges

As soon as this healthscare bill is passed one hell of a legal storm is going to move in. Legal experts are preparing for a legal battle and it's going to be interesting if nothing else. I think it's going to get very ugly though. I'm anxious to see this epic battle play out because I think the mandate in this bill is unconstitutional and I believe it will be proven as such.


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Why Are the Democrats Pressing So Hard for ObamaCare?

Looking for a good Christmas gift? Get Caucus of Corruption: The Truth About The New Democratic Majority by Matt Margolis and Mark Noonan.

Mark Steyn nails it:

As I wrote back in the summer, “Put not your trust in Blue Dog Democrats.” It was folly to bet the Republic on the likes of Ben Nelson and Blanche Lincoln and other “moderates” who are, by definition, trimmers and accommodationists.

By contrast, Barney Frank and the more ambitious Dems are thinking long-term. And, if it’s a choice between getting government health care or keeping Ben Nelson, it’s no contest. Not to keep quoting myself ad nauseam, but as I said to Hugh Hewitt a couple of months back:

I think the administration is willing to take the hit. In other words, to get health care, they would be willing to reduce their majority, and perhaps even lose their majority in the House and the Senate, because they know it’s a game changer. Now to sell that to individual Senators and Congressmen, you’ve got to have something up your sleeve for them… There are strange elements in play here. But they’ve factored into the whole business a potential, I think, a potential significant loss in the year 2010, in next year’s elections.

I’ve been saying for a year now, in NR and NRO, that the object for savvy Dems is to get this thing passed in whatever form because, once you do, there’s no going back. Kim Strassel in yesterday’s Journal gets it:

So why the stubborn insistence on passing health reform? Think big. The liberal wing of the party—the Barney Franks, the David Obeys—are focused beyond November 2010, to the long-term political prize. They want a health-care program that inevitably leads to a value-added tax and a permanent welfare state. Big government then becomes fact, and another Ronald Reagan becomes impossible. See Continental Europe.

Just so. And that’s worth whatever hit they have to take in 2010. Every time I make the point, someone says, oh, Jim Webb this or Byron Dorgan that, or have you see Harry Reid’s numbers in Nevada? Oh, please. We’ve just seen what happens when you make Ben Nelson your Maginot Line. The Dems are thinking strategically; the Republicans are all tactics.

Which is why, dear friends, we have to fight it out in 2010 as a People vs Powerful battle. I lay it out a bit over at Nevada News and Views as it relates directly to Nevada and Harry Reid, but the template is what we need around the country - and all the way through 2012.

Democrats are expecting to lose some seats next year. They probably think they’ll keep their majority, but they know it will be rough for them - but it will be roughest for the alleged “blue dogs” who represent GOP districts and who are only in office due to fluke elections in 2006 and 2008. Harry, Nancy and Co fully expect to still have their power in 2011 and, working with Obama, continue to implement more and more of their agenda until it becomes unlikely that the GOP will be able to do a complete repeal - especially if Obama is re-elected in 2012. That happens, then even a GOP Congressional majority won’t help us because Obama would veto any repeal/reform attempts.

We have to think anew and act anew. The people are furious with government and in that fury is our opportunity not just to win a few seats, but to score a historic victory which would prevent the further Obamanization of America not just by ending liberal legislative efforts, but by fearlessly exposing the corruption of DC. This, in turn, would give us the best chance to argue for a complete change in 2012. But to do this we need to offer more than just tax cuts and wonkish programs - we need to offer a revolution.

The left has talked itself in to believing that only a few tens of thousands showed up for the summer’s TEA Party in DC - we know how many really showed up. But imagine, my fellow Americans, if we are swearing in a new GOP House majority in January of 2011 while 2 million TEA Partiers demonstrate in favor of root and branch government reform! That is the sort of vision we need - we need to think in terms of a grand overthrow of the current system - and this means not just the Big Government we especially despise, but the Big Corporation which has become toady to Big Government. We have the materials for a shift in American politics - all we have to do is assemble them in to an unbeatable combination.

The left presses for final and complete control over America’s destiny - we must contest them with as grand a vision and a desire for as permanent a victory. Right now, we’re the people armed with knives at a gun fight and its time we woke up to our peril, and to our opportunity.

UPDATE: The real cost of ObamaCare


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Every Dem Senator up in 2010 Cast the Winning Vote

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Saturday, November 21st at 1:50PM EST


Senator Landrieu and Senator Lincoln have announced they would give their vote to Senator Reid and the White House to allow ObamaCare to the Senate floor.

For the group of U.S. Senators up in 2010 — the ones facing the independent voters that turned 2:1 against the Democrats in the New Jersey and Virginia elections — they will each be tagged all election cycle with providing the one vote needed for ObamaCare to come before the Senate. They could have stopped it, but they did not.

The vote on cloture on the motion to proceed needs 60 votes, and therefore every Democratic Senator and every Democratic Independent can be accurately accused of providing the winning vote for Senator Reid to proceed to the very unpopular bill.

This message, I am certain, will make it into campaign commercials in 2010.

Below is a list of the Democratic Senators up in 2010, and the email contact links for each of their offices:

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Bayh, Evan - (D - IN) Class III 131 RUSSELL SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510 (202) 224-5623 Web Form: bayh.senate.gov/contact/email/

Bennet, Michael F. - (D - CO) Class III 702 HART SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510 (202) 224-5852 Web Form: bennet.senate.gov/contact/

Boxer, Barbara - (D - CA) Class III 112 HART SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510 (202) 224-3553 Web Form: boxer.senate.gov/contact/email/policy.cfm

Burris, Roland W. - (D - IL) Class III 387 RUSSELL SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510 (202) 224-2854 Web Form: burris.senate.gov/contact/contact.cfm

Dodd, Christopher J. - (D - CT) Class III 448 RUSSELL SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510 (202) 224-2823 Web Form: dodd.senate.gov/index.php?q=node/3130

Dorgan, Byron L. - (D - ND) Class III 322 HART SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510 (202) 224-2551 Web Form: dorgan.senate.gov/contact/contact_form.cfm

Feingold, Russell D. - (D - WI) Class III 506 HART SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510 (202) 224-5323 Web Form: feingold.senate.gov/contact_opinion.html

Inouye, Daniel K. - (D - HI) Class III 722 HART SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510 (202) 224-3934 Web Form: inouye.senate.gov/Contact/Email-Form.cfm

Leahy, Patrick J. - (D - VT) Class III 433 RUSSELL SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510 (202) 224-4242 Web Form: leahy.senate.gov/contact.cfm

Lincoln, Blanche L. - (D - AR) Class III 355 DIRKSEN SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510 (202) 224-4843 Web Form: lincoln.senate.gov/contact/email.cfm

Mikulski, Barbara A. - (D - MD) Class III 503 HART SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510 (202) 224-4654 Web Form: mikulski.senate.gov/Contact/contact.cfm

Murray, Patty - (D - WA) Class III 173 RUSSELL SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510 (202) 224-2621 Web Form: murray.senate.gov/email/index.cfm

Reid, Harry - (D - NV) Class III 522 HART SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510 (202) 224-3542 Web Form: reid.senate.gov/contact/index.cfm

Schumer, Charles E. - (D - NY) Class III 313 HART SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510 (202) 224-6542 Web Form: schumer.senate.gov/new_website/contact.cfm

Specter, Arlen - (D - PA) Class III 711 HART SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510 (202) 224-4254 specter.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Contact.Co…

Wyden, Ron - (D - OR) Class III 223 DIRKSEN SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510 (202) 224-5244 Web Form: wyden.senate.gov/contact/


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                                                House Judiciary Chair: ‘I’m Getting Tired Of Saving Obama’s Can’                                        
                                       
                                                November 19, 2009 at 4:29 pm - Bill Press Radio Show
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"He only won by five votes in the House, and this bill wasn't even anything to write home about," Rep. John Conyers (D-Mich.) said.
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By Michael O'Brien - 11/09/09 11:50 AM ET

A House Democratic leader said Monday she's “confident” controversial language on abortion will be stripped from a final healthcare bill.

Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.), the Democrats’ chief deputy whip in the House, said that she and other pro-abortion rights lawmakers would work to strip the amendment included in the House health bill that bars federal funding from going to subsidize abortions.

“I am confident that when it comes back from the conference committee that that language won't be there,” Wasserman Schultz said during an appearance on MSNBC. “And I think we're all going to be working very hard, particularly the pro-choice members, to make sure that's the case.”

The amendment, offered by Rep. Bart Stupak (D-Mich.), won the support of Republicans and dozens of centrist Democrats in the House, but revealed a deep divide in the Democratic caucus over abortion.

Sixty-four Democrats voted for Stupak’s amendment, without which the House healthcare bill would not have won final passage in a 220-215 vote.

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Where in this comprehensive health care sham of a bill is a section for Dental Health Care?

I am not talking about cosmetic procedures, but regular Dental procedures for good overall health. Poor dental health can lead to recurrent infections, andd even heart disease and death.

So many of these nut jobs worry about protecting abortion rights, too bad that energy isn't used for something more useful.

We need to realize that this whole sham is not about health care and concern for our well being, its about socialism and control!                
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We still have a 5-4 majority in the court. I hope someone starts a lawsuit on the consitutionality of this bill. It is not legal to force us to buy insurance!

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I'm very worried about President Obama’s healthcare “solution.” Like most radically liberal progressive shifts in our society, this just seems to be talking us down the slippery slope of a socialist country. A complete government takeover of our health care system is just not the American way. With “Obama Care,” people would now have to shop for their medical coverage through a federally regulated marketplace, meaning there would no longer be the abundance of private healthcare companies to choose from. Eventually these private insurers will all be driven out of business, leaving only the government plan as our option. This will dictate various aspects of our medical care—ranging from which procedures are deemed as worthy, which patients are most in need of such procedures, as well as where and by whom such procedures are performed. Maybe if you have no coverage and have no other choice, you will take this. But to the average folks, why would you want to let anyone other than YOURSELF dictate how you treat your own illnesses? Instead of an individual having an opportunity to allocate their own income and insurance resources to seek a second opinion or other options in a time of a medical emergency, all such decisions will already be pre-determined. Don’t think this is some free lunch either, because someone has to pay for all this. And that’s you and me—as we will be subjected to a huge tax increase. This will also completely gut Medicare, seriously changing and disrupting senior citizen healthcare coverage. Furthermore, in an economy that’s already struggling, businesses will now be forced to provide coverage to their employees with a government selected provider—or get slapped with thousands of dollars in penalties if such mandates are defied. Entrepreneurship and free enterprise—the backbone of economic growth—would be highly compromised with such regulations. In a nutshell, this socialized medicine means that basically everyone will get the same poor-quality healthcare. Hardly sounds like a solution to me...

The poor will benefit obviously, going from no healthcare to this. But hard-working middle class Americans will no longer be able to have a say in their own medical care. Those who favor this are the same types of people who rely on welfare and food stamps and bleed the system dry on our tax dollars. These types of things should be last resorts (and temporary resorts) to those who truly need it—yet once one is enabled with such—they no longer have any motivation or desire to become self-reliant. This really doesn’t impact successful independent Americans because they still will be able to pay out of pocket and get the best medical care that they choose. But, moderate democrats support this plan because even though they may strive to be independently successful themselves, they have become disenchanted with their own set-backs in doing so—and instead of continuing to move forward they side with those who support this plan. Why? Because it’s sadly presented as some kind of assistance for the middle class, when in reality it’s nothing more than another form of dictatorship and welfare for those individuals that are unfazed by their lack of contributions to society and blame everyone else for their predicaments. This will greatly hinder the very goal of independent success and prosperity—which is a core value of a conservative-thinking citizen who believes in the American Dream like I do. I strive to be self-reliant, in a position of wealth and in a position to be able to pay for the best medical care I can afford. Yet in the meantime, with Obama Care, I may not even be able to have the opportunity to choose my own personal healthcare coverage, based on my own research and selection of the physician I feel best fits mine and my family’s needs. So I have to possibly sacrifice my own family’s healthcare options to look out for inner-city urban minorities? My father, who runs his own business has to be forced into making his employees sign up with a government-run health plan or risk going bankrupt by having to pay thousands in fines? My grandmother on Medicare will have to now possibly change her entire lifestyle? Republicans oppose Obama Care because they are looking out for my family, unlike this administration.

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H.R. 3962 grants the power to ration healthcare

The CEO of the Christian Medical & Dental Associations says if the House healthcare bill passes, people will be driven into the government option by their employers.

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ObamaCare, be paying for sex-change operations



Believe it or not, your tax dollars may soon, under ObamaCare, be paying for sex-change operations for psychologically confused illegal aliens to the tune of $50,000 a pop.

 

Yep, you read that right. Matt Barber, Director of Cultural Affairs at the Liberty Institute, found provisions in the Senate bill (the one that Sen. Arlen Specter had his staff read for him so he didn’t have to) a provision that orders the government to “detect and monitor trends in health disparities” and orders the Department of Health and Human Services to “develop standards for the measurement of gender.”

 

Biologically, measuring gender is a no-brainer. People are either male or female – and unchangeably so - in every single cell of their bodies, a medical truth easily verified by their DNA. In other words, we already have incontrovertible standards for measuring gender, which means this misbegotten provision is an effort to legitimize sexual confusion, make it seem normal, and force all Americans to subsidize procedures designed to accommodate rather than cure sexual deviation.

 

The Senate bill, according to Barber’s research, also mandates “participation in the institutions’ programs of individuals and groups from ... different genders and sexual orientations.”

 

The Bible is clear that there are just two “genders:” God created “male and female” according to Genesis 1:27. No surgical reassignment of gender is necessary, since the confusion is found in the soul and not the body.

 

But since Sen. Barbara Mikulski was quite clear in a committee hearing that ObamaCare will require taxpayer funding for “any service deemed ... medically appropriate,” we may be sure that sex change surgeries will be authorized under this provision by the health wizards in the Obama administration who get to define medical appropriateness.

 

And since proposed amendments which would prohibit government-mandated health insurance for illegals has been slapped down by Democrats on straight party-line votes, get ready for a surge in sex-reassignment tourism as sexually twisted individuals come from all over the world to have their bodies mutilated in a desperate and wrongheaded attempt to cure what only God can fix. And the president’s plan is for you and me to pay for it.


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ABC Notices Obama Administration's Effort to Suppress Criticism of ObamaCare

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell's decision to go to the Senate floor on Tuesday to call out the Obama administration for using the full power of a federal regulatory agency to suppress free speech -- specifically, to silence Humana's predictions about the impact of proposed ObamaCare cuts to the Medicare Advantage program -- led ABC, but not CBS or NBC, to air a story on the “gag order.”    

ABC's story began with a McConnell soundbite (“'Shut up,' the government says, 'don't communicate with your customers. Be quiet and get in line,'”), before reporter Jonathan Karl explained McConnell was referring to the “Department of Health and Human Services, telling insurance companies who serve Medicare recipients, to stop 'misleading' and 'confusing' mailings, saying, quote: 'We are instructing you to immediately discontinue all such mailings, and remove any related materials from your Web sites.'”

Karl continued: “The extraordinary order comes in response to a mailing the Humana insurance company sent to customers in the Medicare Advantage program. The Humana mailing warned that because of Medicare cuts in the health care reform bills, quote, 'millions of seniors and disabled individuals could lose many important benefits and services.'”

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AP to Obama: "It's a tax"
 
 
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FACT CHECK: Coverage requirement enforced with tax


By RICARDO ALONSO-ZALDIVAR (AP) – 7 hours ago

WASHINGTON — Memo to President Barack Obama: It's a tax. Obama insisted this weekend on national television that requiring people to carry health insurance — and fining them if they don't — isn't the same thing as a tax increase. But the language of Democratic bills to revamp the nation's health care system doesn't quibble. Both the House bill and the Senate Finance Committee proposal clearly state that the fines would be a tax.

And the reason the fines are in the legislation is to enforce the coverage requirement.

"If you put something in the Internal Revenue Code, and you tell the IRS to collect it, I think that's a tax," said Clint Stretch, head of the tax policy group for Deloitte, a major accounting firm. "If you don't pay, the person who's going to come and get it is going to be from the IRS."

Democrats aren't the first to propose that individuals be required to carry health insurance and fined if they refuse. The conservative Heritage Foundation called for such a mandate in the 1990s' health care debate, although its proposal differed from the ones pending in Congress. Heritage has since dropped the idea and now favors using tax credits to encourage people to buy coverage — carrots and not sticks.

During the 2008 political campaign, Obama opposed making coverage mandatory because of the costs. His position has shifted now that it's becoming clear such a requirement will be part of any legislation that Congress sends him. Conservative activists are calling it a violation of his pledge not to raise taxes on the middle class.

"This is exactly what George Bush Sr. did when he said he wouldn't raise taxes, and it cost him the next election," said Grover Norquist, president of Americans for Tax Reform. "Obama is doing the same thing, but he's insulting people by telling them that if you don't call it a big purple banana, somehow it wouldn't be a tax."

Some liberals acknowledge that Obama might be vulnerable on the insurance requirement. But they say most people will understand as long as the legislation provides enough of a subsidy to make the coverage affordable. That's a central issue this week as the Senate Finance Committee starts voting on legislation.

"I think it's a metaphysical question as to whether it's a tax or not," said Roger Hickey, co-director of the Campaign for America's Future. "The real question that will determine whether people are upset is whether the insurance is affordable."

In an interview that aired Sunday on ABC's "This Week," Obama insisted that the insurance requirement is not a tax.

"For us to say that you've got to take a responsibility to get health insurance is absolutely not a tax increase," the president said. "What it's saying is...that we're not going to have other people carrying your burdens for you anymore.

"Right now everybody in America, just about, has to get auto insurance," Obama added. "Nobody considers that a tax increase.

"You just can't make up that language and decide that that's called a tax increase," he added.

But a Democratic staff description of Sen. Max Baucus' bill calls the proposed fines an "excise tax." Penalties of up to $950 for individuals and $3,800 for families would be imposed on those who don't get coverage.

The House bill uses a complex formula to calculate the penalties, calling them a "tax on individuals without acceptable health care coverage."

The coverage mandate is part of a political bargain under which the insurance industry would agree to take all applicants, regardless of prior medical history.

"If we're going to have coverage without regard to pre-existing conditions, it makes sense," said economist Roberton Williams of the Tax Policy Center. "Otherwise people will come in the door the day they get sick." He sees no distinction between the requirement to get coverage and the fines themselves.

"The fact that it is imposed on people and they have no choice in paying it, and the fact that it's administered through the tax system all make it look like a tax," Williams said. The center is a joint venture of the Urban Institute and the Brookings Institution.

It wouldn't be the first asterisk added to Obama's campaign pledge on taxes. Earlier this year, he signed a tobacco tax increase to pay for children's health insurance. Even that can be read as a violation of his expansive campaign promise.

"I can make a firm pledge," he said in Dover, N.H., on Sept. 12, 2008. "Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes."

He repeatedly promised "you will not see any of your taxes increase one single dime."

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Obama Insists Mandate is Not a ‘Tax’ in Contentious Exchange with ABC’s Stephanopoulos

                                                                                                                                                                               
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Dateline: Washington DC
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       

Politico: In the most contentious exchange of President Barack Obama’s marathon of five Sunday shows, he said it is “not true” that a requirement for individuals to get health insurance under a key reform plan now being debated amounts to a tax increase. But he could look it up — in the bill. Page 29, sentence one of the bill introduced by Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus (D-Mont) says: “The consequence for not maintaining insurance would be an excise tax.”

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87% of Employers to Reduce Benefits if Health Care Reform Increases Costs

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               

Will The MSM Notice?

A Towers Perrin Survey came across the Business Wire on Reuters this morning stating that a majority of employers surveyed will reduce benefits resulting from the proposed Democrat Health Care Reform bill that is working its way through Congress if it increases costs.


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