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"And [Jesus] said to them, 'The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath. Therefore the Son of Man is also Lord of the Sabbath'" (Mark 2:27-28).   NOTICE he didn't say the Sabbath was for Jews, but for all mankind.

 In Isaiah 58:13-14:

    If you turn away your foot from the Sabbath, from doing your pleasure on My holy day, and call the Sabbath a delight, the holy day of the Lord honorable, and shall honor Him, not doing your own ways, nor finding your own pleasure, nor speaking your own words, then you shall delight yourself in the Lord; and I will cause you to ride on the high hills of the earth, and feed you with the heritage of Jacob your father. The mouth of the Lord has spoken.


We also read "Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy" (Exodus 20:8).

Christ says, in the sermon on the mount: "Do not think that I came to destroy the Law" (Matthew 5:17), so "Christians" think He came to destroy it!


So, is the Sabbath Covenant for Israel only, excluding Gentiles?  God, in the Bible tells us that "Whether Jew or Gentile, male or female, old or young, Christians are all one in Christ Jesus" (Galatians 3:28).


The word "Sunday" does not appear any place in the Bible, but the phrase "first day of the week" is found in the New Testament. It occurs in only eight places. Examining these eight texts will prove insightful because it becomes clear that Sunday was never considered the day to go to church.

1. Matthew 28:1: "Now after the Sabbath, as the first day of the week began to dawn, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary came to see the tomb."
        
        The Bible tells us that three days and three nights after all that was done away had been securely "nailed to the cross," the Sabbath was still the day before the first day of the week—still the seventh day of the week
        
2. Mark 16:2: "Very early in the morning, on the first day of the week, they came to the tomb when the sun had risen." This first day of the week was, according to verse 1, "when the Sabbath was past." This text, then, proves the same thing as Matthew 28:1. The Sabbath was still the seventh day of the week



3. Mark 16:9: "Now when He rose [was risen, KJV] early on the first day of the week, He appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom He had cast seven demons."



4. Luke 24:1: "Now on the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they, and certain other women with them, came to the tomb bringing the spices which they had prepared."



5. John 20:1: "On the first day of the week Mary Magdalene came to the tomb early, while it was still dark. . . ."


6. John 20:19: "Then, the same day at evening, being the first day of the week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled, for fear of the Jews, Jesus came and stood in the midst, and said to them, 'peace be with you.'" Let us examine this carefully, for some claim this was a religious service called to celebrate the resurrection.

Notice this is the same first day of the week that followed the Sabbath. It was Jesus' first opportunity to appear to His disciples. For three and a half years, He had been constantly with them, on all days of the week. His meeting with them, of itself, could not establish any day as a Sabbath.

Were they meeting together to celebrate the resurrection, thus establishing Sunday as the Christian Sabbath in honor of the resurrection? The text gives the reason they were together: "for fear of the Jews"! The Jews had just taken, tried, and handed their Master over to the Romans for crucifixion. They were afraid! The doors were shut and probably bolted because of their fear. In addition, they were there because they all lived together in this upper room (Acts 1:13). Finally—and conclusively—they did not assemble to celebrate the resurrection because they did not believe Jesus was risen (Mark 16:14; Luke 24:37, 39, 41).

Nothing in this text calls this day the "Sabbath," the "Lord's Day," or any sacred title. Nothing here sets it apart or makes it holy. Scripture gives no authority here for changing a command of God!

7. Acts 20:7: "Now on the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul, ready to depart the next day, spoke to them and continued his message until midnight."

Here, at last, we find a religious meeting on the first day of the week, but it was not a "Sunday meeting," that is, a church service. . Notice, Paul continued his speech until midnight, and verse 8 says, "There were many lamps in the upper room where they were gathered together." It indeed occurred after sunset, before midnight, thus on the first day of the week. This meeting and Paul's preaching—at most, it was what we would call a Bible study today—took place during the hours we now call Saturday night.

However, it is clear from subsequent verses that Paul and his companions treated this first day of the week, beginning at sundown, as a normal workday. Paul's companions sailed around a peninsula from Troas to Assos (verse 13)—a distance of fifty or sixty miles—while Paul, afoot, walked overland more than 19 miles (verses 11, 14). His companions were engaged in the labor of rowing and sailing a boat while Paul was preaching that Saturday night. Then, at the break of day Sunday morning, he set out to walk from Troas to Assos—a good hard day's work! He would not do this except on a common workday!

Does this text not say, as many claim, that the disciples always held communion every first day of the week? Not at all! This scripture says nothing about anything being done weekly or customarily. It simply relates the events of this one particular first day of the week. The first-century church kept the Lord's Supper once each year on the Passover (I Corinthians 11:24).

That "the disciples came together to break bread" means merely that they gathered to eat a meal. This expression was commonly used to designate a meal in past times (see Luke 24:30; Acts 2:46; 27:35 for further examples of "breaking bread). Scripture interprets it only as eating a meal, not as a Communion service.

8. I Corinthians 16:2: "On the first day of the week let each one of you lay something aside, storing up as he may prosper that there be no collections when I come." Often we see this text printed on the little offering envelopes in the pews of churches, and many preach that this text sets Sunday as the time for taking up the church collection for doing God's work and paying the minister and church expenses.

This verse says nothing of the sort!

Verse 1 tells us what kind of collection is being made: "Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I have given orders to the churches of Galatia, so you must do also." First, it is a collection—not for the preacher, evangelism, or church expenses—but "for the saints." The members of the church in Jerusalem were suffering from drought and famine. They needed, not money, but food.

Notice that Paul had given similar instruction to other churches. He tells the Romans:

    But now I am going to Jerusalem to minister to the saints. For it pleased those from Macedonia and Achaia [where Corinth is located] to make a certain contribution for the poor among the saints who are at Jerusalem. . . . Therefore, when I have performed this and have sealed to them this fruit, I shall go by way of you to Spain. (Romans 15:25-28)

It was not money, but fruit that was being prepared for shipment to the poor saints at Jerusalem! The Greek word can also refer to grain, wine, and other produce that can be stored a long time without spoiling.

In I Corinthians 16:2, does Paul say they should give money at a church service? Not at all! He says, "Let each one of you lay something aside, storing up. . . ." Note this! He is telling them to put something aside for a special use, to store it—at home! Why? Because Paul did not want there be any collecting done when he arrived. He wanted this gift for the Jerusalem church to be ready for shipment.

"And when I come, whomever you approve by your letters I will send to bear your gift to Jerusalem. But if it is fitting that I go also, they [more than one] will go with me" (verses 3-4). Apparently it was going to require several men to carry this collection, gathered and stored up, to Jerusalem. If it were a tithe or offering for the minister or to spread the gospel, Paul could have carried the money alone.

Thus, once again, the first day of the week is a workday, a day for gathering fruit and food out of the orchards, fields, and gardens, and for storing it up. This labor was to be done on the first day as soon as the Sabbath was past!

Upon honest examination, not one of the texts speaking about "the first day of the week" sets it apart as a rest day. Not one makes it holy, calls it the Sabbath or by any other sacred title. In every case, the first day of the week was a common workday. In none of them was there a religious meeting and preaching service being held on the hours we now call Sunday. In none of them can we find a single shred of Bible authority for Sunday observance!

Read more:http://www.sabbath.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Basics.Tour/ID/13/Sunday-Worship-New-Testament.htm#ixzz0xipkWkzR


Even the Catholics realize that it was them that changed the Sabbath day!
“Most Christians assume that Sunday is the biblically approved day of worship. The Catholic Church protests that it transferred Christian worship from the biblical Sabbath (Saturday) to Sunday, and that to try to argue that the change was made in the Bible is both dishonest and a denial of Catholic authority. If Protestantism wants to base its teachings only on the Bible, it should worship on Saturday.” Rome’s Challengehttp://www.immaculateheart.com/maryonline Dec 2003

  “Is not every Christian obliged to sanctify Sunday and to abstain on that day from unnecessary servile work? Is not the observance of this law among the most prominent of our sacred duties? But you may read the Bible from Genesis to Revelation, and you will not find a single line authorizing the sanctification of Sunday. The Scriptures enforce the religious observance of Saturday, a day which we never sanctify.” James Cardinal Gibbons, The Faith of Our Fathers (1917 edition), p. 72-73 (16th Edition, p 111; 88th Edition, p. 89).

  “For example, nowhere in the Bible do we find that Christ or the Apostles ordered that the Sabbath be changed from Saturday to Sunday. We have the commandment of God given to Moses to keep holy the Sabbath day, that is the 7th day of the week, Saturday. Today most Christians keep Sunday because it has been revealed to us by the [Roman Catholic] church outside the Bible.” Catholic Virginian, October 3, 1947, p. 9, article “To Tell You the Truth.”
  
  “Written by the finger of God on two tables of stone, this Divine code (ten commandments) was received from the Almighty by Moses amid the thunders of Mount Sinai...Christ resumed these Commandments in the double precept of charity--love of God and of the neighbour; He proclaimed them as binding under the New Law in Matthew 19 and in the Sermon on the Mount (Matthew 5)...The (Catholic) Church, on the other hand, after changing the day of rest from the Jewish Sabbath, or seventh day of the week, to the first, made the Third Commandment refer to Sunday as the day to be kept holy as the Lord’s Day...He (God) claims one day out of the seven as a memorial to Himself, and this must be kept holy...”The Catholic Encyclopaedia, vol. 4, “The Ten Commandments”, 1908 edition by Robert Appleton Company; and 1999 Online edition by Kevin Knight, Imprimatur, John M. Farley, Archbishop of New York.


“Question: How prove you that the church had power to command feasts and holydays?
“Answer: By the very act of changing the Sabbath into Sunday, which Protestants allow of and therefore they fondly contradict themselves by keeping Sunday strictly, and breaking most other feasts commanded by the same church.
“Question: Have you any other way of proving that the church has power to institute festivals of precept?
“Answer: Had she not such power, she could not a done that in which all modern religionists agree with her; -she could not have substituted the observance of Sunday the first day of the week, for the observance of Saturday the seventh day of the week, a change for which there is no Scriptural authority.” Stephen Keenan, A Doctrinal Catechism On the Obedience Due to the Church, 3rd edition, Chapter 2, p. 174 (Imprimatur, John Cardinal McCloskey, Archbishop of New York).
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In the very end-times, which is not yet right now, Jesus says we are to pray that our flight be not on a Sabbath Day!  Think about that.
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Until Bob Barney and The Plain Truth came along I was a religious sort of guy with absolutely no knowledge in the faith I thought I believed in.  One of the first things Bob proved to me was the Sabbath day and that it was on Saturday not Sunday.  Since then, I have learned many things from Bob- a great teacher
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Frank, as you know, I have always said that only people that have a right to follow Christmas, Easter or Sunday are Catholics, because they are honest about how they got those holidays!  However as for the the idea of of the primacy of Peter:

When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am? And they said, Some [say that thou art] John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets. He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed [it] unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. (Matthew 16:13-19).

This sounds pretty convincing! However have you ever read just 4 lines down from that?

                               

But He turned and said to Peter, "Get behind Me, Satan! You are an offense to Me, for you are not mindful of the things of God, but the things of men."

Just after he gives him the primacy, he then goes on and calls him Satan! 

When Jesus established His true church, did He intend to relinquish control of it—giving the total headship of the church into the hands of one of the apostles?

Let the Bible answer. Jesus said, "And I say also unto thee, that thou art Peter [Greek: Petros, meaning a 'pebble' or a small 'rock'] and upon this rock [Greek: Petra, meaning a whole mass of rock, like a craggy cliff or mountain] I will build my church; and the gates of hell [Greek: 'hades,' meaning the grave] shall not prevail against it" (Matthew 16:18).

Peter had two "nicknames," one in Greek and the other in Aramaic. Jesus supplied Peter this name when He said, "Thou art Peter" (using the Greek, "Petros") and said He would make Peter a "fisher of men." The other is "Cephas" (pronounced KE-fus), which is the Aramaic equivalent to "a stone."

The fact that Jesus called Peter a "little pebble," or a small "stone," did not indicate He was placing a TITLE on Peter's name. Names have meanings. Titles are added to names. If Peter had been given a "title," it would have been obvious, for Jesus would have called him "Peter Primus " or "Peter the First. "

Those who argue that Peter's name meant he had the "primacy" OVER the other apostles—that they had to be subject to him—are in error. Peter himself was to write that each minister—whether apostle, elder, or whatever—was to be "subject to the other"! (1 Peter 5:5).

This change of name is not uncommon, for God changed Abram to "Abraham," meaning a "father of many nations," Jacob to "Israel," Saul to "Paul," and so on.

Jesus said He would build His church "upon this ROCK"! Who did He mean?

When Jesus said, "Thou art Petros, and upon this ‘PETRA’ I will build my church, " He used, first, the masculine ending of the root Greek word which means "a rock" When He said "upon this rock" [Petra] I will build my church, He used the feminine, which has a different meaning.

Those who are familiar with the "romance" languages (based upon Latin, such as French and Spanish, etc.) know that articles, including physiological and topographical objects, have "masculine" and "feminine" gender. Thus, in the Spanish language, a "mountain" is "la montana." Our western state, in the United States, of "Montana" means, literally, "mountain."

The "a" on the end of "montana" demands a "la" (feminine) at the beginning of the phrase.

All objects, such as the house (la casa—feminine) or the automobile (el automobile—masculine), have feminine or masculine gender.

Jesus changed the gender of the root Greek word deliberately.

The first, the masculine petros, means "a rock, " but it means a much smaller rock, like a chunk of rock or stone taken from a much larger piece of rock. When He used the feminine gender in the second case, "PETRA," He meant the craggy side of a cliff, a great monolith, or a mountain of rock!

To what—or to whom—did He refer? Let the Bible answer!

Notice: "…And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of the spiritual ROCK that followed them: and that ROCK [Petra, in the Greek] WASCHRIST! (1 Corinthians 10:4).

This very important scripture refers directly to Jesus Christ, that member of the godhead who was continually with the Israelites during their wanderings in the wilderness.  (Garner Ted Armstrong -- http://www.garnertedarmstrong.org )

Notice the order in which the apostle Paul lists the "chiefest apostles" (remember, that is a plural term; there were several who were "chiefest"): "And when James, Cephas [Petros', Peter] and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas [who was also an apostle!] the right hands of fellowship; that we should go to the heathen, and they to the circumcision" (Galatians 2:9).

Also note that Paul even told Peter off! (Galatians 2:11-13)


One more point most always overlooked:

In Acts 13, Paul is speaking to Jews in Antioch.  There were also gentiles listening to him. It was on the Sabbath day--- years after Christ went back to heaven.  It makes sense, you preach to Jews on their day, right?  Read this for yourself:


ACTS:42                                 As Paul and Barnabas were leaving the synagogue, the people invited them to speak further about these things on the next Sabbath.

Why did the gentiles ask Paul to come back on the next Sabbath, why not on Sunday?????  Ever wonder that????

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I'll say it straight-out. I am a very devout Catholic and I believe it to be the true church of the Bible. I do not hold that Protestants are not Christians, because I think they are, but the Catholic Church is the church founded in Rome from the original true church. Anyone that studies any history knows that Sunday worship, Christmas, Easter, the Trinity and most Christian viewpoints have come from the Church in Rome and not from the Bible. The early church leaders were Jews and they followed the Jewish faith. Jesus gave Peter the role of the papacy and he was given the keys to the church. Whatever Peter pronounced was law. Later, each Pope sat in place of Peter and when he became Pope, then he had this power of Peter given to him by Christ. In Matthew 16:18, Jesus creates and builds His Church (not "churches") on Peter, the Rock.  Notice also that even hell can't stop the everlasting existence of His Church.

    "And I say to you, that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it. "

In the following verse 19, Jesus gives Peter the keys to the kingdom.

    "And I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven. And whatever you shall bind on earth shall be bound, even in heaven. And whatever you shall loose on earth shall be loosed, even in heaven.”


In the Catholic Church this is called CATHOLIC BIBLE 101
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You are right, 7th day observer... after I studied it further, it is talking about the feasts rather than the actual Sabbath. My oops!
 
Frank, I mean no disrespect, but where does it say in the Bible that Peter had the power to change the things that God mandated? Where in the Bible does it say that Peter, or any other "pope", had the ability to change that which God instituted from the very beginning? According to those verses, one can only understand that Christ was giving Peter the power to continue on in the things that Jesus taught, not change things. God tells us that no man is to be called Father in a spiritual sense, yet they call priests, father. Bishops were supposed to be married with children, yet the leaders of the catholic church are celibut. Because of these things, as well as many others, I think alot of people who don't follow the catholic faith don't understand because to most people it looks as if they do their own thing, without following the Bible.
 
Christ Himself was a Jew... followed the Laws of God. Peter himself was also a Jew... we know this because when God gave him that vision (Acts 10) about the meats in the jars and he was to eat of all it - clean and unclean, he freaked and told God that he had NEVER eaten unclean meats, which was a Jewish custom. Of course we later learn that the vision was about people and not food. But, it does show that Peter also observed Jewish customs.

Again, because of this, it would only stand to reason that the choices and decisions Peter would make would be from Christ's standpoint, as well as based on the Laws of God (which were NOT Jewish law only, but for all of mankind who followed the God of Abraham). There would be a difference of course because he was technically no longer "Jewish" but now a follower of Christ who still stuck to the tenants of the OT, because as Christ had said, He did not come to destroy the Law. 
 

I always thought that the 'true church' of the Bible, is as the Bible states it, the followers of God, not any one 'denomination'.
 
And because of the verses you provided, I now also understand why the pope feels he is acting as Vicar, or the agent of Christ, but also as Christ on Earth...which I could never understand. 

Again, please understand, I only wish to gain knowledge, not disrespect anyone.


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I'll say it straight-out. I am a very devout Catholic and I believe it to be the true church of the Bible. I do not hold that Protestants are not Christians, because I think they are, but the Catholic Church is the church founded in Rome from the original true church. Anyone that studies any history knows that Sunday worship, Christmas, Easter, the Trinity and most Christian viewpoints have come from the Church in Rome and not from the Bible. The early church leaders were Jews and they followed the Jewish faith. Jesus gave Peter the role of the papacy and he was given the keys to the church. Whatever Peter pronounced was law. Later, each Pope sat in place of Peter and when he became Pope, then he had this power of Peter given to him by Christ. In Matthew 16:18, Jesus creates and builds His Church (not "churches") on Peter, the Rock.  Notice also that even hell can't stop the everlasting existence of His Church.

    "And I say to you, that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it. "

In the following verse 19, Jesus gives Peter the keys to the kingdom.

    "And I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven. And whatever you shall bind on earth shall be bound, even in heaven. And whatever you shall loose on earth shall be loosed, even in heaven.”


In the Catholic Church this is called CATHOLIC BIBLE 101
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The quote you mention does not mean Sunday, as it means the first day of the feast, it could be Monday, Tuesday or Thursday.  Whenever the first day of the week means Sunday, then the guy from wwcg is correct.

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No disrespect meant here, but I beg to differ on:
 
"Upon honest examination, not one of the texts speaking about "the first day of the week" sets it apart as a rest day. Not one makes it holy, calls it the Sabbath or by any other sacred title. In every case, the first day of the week was a common workday. In none of them was there a religious meeting and preaching service being held on the hours we now call Sunday. In none of them can we find a single shred of Bible authority for Sunday observance!"

Unless you were referring to the verses that were posted within your post, I beg to differ on what God says about the first day of the week also being holy, about preaching being done on it, and a time of no work. There is a verse that is extremely clear on the subject:

"And in the first day [there shall be] an holy convocation, and in the seventh day there shall be an holy convocation to you; no manner of work shall be done in THEM, save [that] which every man must eat, that only may be done of you." Ex 12:16
 
Please note, convocation means:
1) convocation, convoking, reading, a calling together
        a) convocation, sacred assembly
 
So a HOLY convocation would be a time of fellowship with God and the assembly of believers, preaching, studying, and fellowshipping. But alas... another day of no work.

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No disrespect meant here, but I beg to differ on:
 
"Upon honest examination, not one of the texts speaking about "the first day of the week" sets it apart as a rest day. Not one makes it holy, calls it the Sabbath or by any other sacred title. In every case, the first day of the week was a common workday. In none of them was there a religious meeting and preaching service being held on the hours we now call Sunday. In none of them can we find a single shred of Bible authority for Sunday observance!"

Unless you were referring to the verses that were posted within your post, I beg to differ on what God says about the first day of the week also being holy, about preaching being done on it, and a time of no work. There is a verse that is extremely clear on the subject:

"And in the first day [there shall be] an holy convocation, and in the seventh day there shall be an holy convocation to you; no manner of work shall be done in THEM, save [that] which every man must eat, that only may be done of you." Ex 12:16
 
Please note, convocation means:
1) convocation, convoking, reading, a calling together
        a) convocation, sacred assembly
 
So a HOLY convocation would be a time of fellowship with God and the assembly of believers, preaching, studying, and fellowshipping. But alas... another day of no work.


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My take... The Sabbath remains on the 7th day. To change it would call Jesus a liar, as He said Himself, on the 7th day rest...that it would be the Sabbath forever. Why would He make such a big deal about God resting on the 7th day, and the 7th day being the day of rest for mankind, the Sabbath in the OT, saying it was to be instituted forever, if He was only going to change it all when He came as Man???
 
Also, if you look at the verses regarding Jesus's resurrection, NOWHERE does it say He ROSE on the first day of the week... instead it says that the tomb was found EMPTY on the first day of the week. Since He is the King of the Sabbath, and He followed the Sabbath day on the 7th day of the week, it would only stand to reason that He also ROSE on the Sabbath, the 7th day of the week.
 
Also, most churches would have you think that the first day is the day for the Sabbath because Paul 'preached on the first day of the week'. Well, if anyone knows anything about Paul, he probably preached EVERY day of the week! And so also did Jesus.
 
I am pretty sure that when the laws were written about the Sabbath, it was meant for ALL people. If you read the Laws, it says even those who are visiting from other lands MUST regard the Sabbath. "But the seventh day [is] the sabbath of the LORD thy God: [in it] thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that [is] within thy gates:" That would include gentiles. 
 
And lastly, those laws were not meant for Jews alone. They are God's Laws... Noah wasn't a Jew, yet he followed the laws. Abraham wasn't a Jew, yet he also followed the laws. Just because Moses, who was a Jew wrote them down (with God's inspiration) many, many years after they were instituted, does not make them all Jewish Laws. They were originally God's Laws, and therefore we should all follow them.

Jesus would not have designed the Laws of the OT (and it was Jesus, not the Father God), saying they were to be instituted forever, and then go back on that when He came to the earth as man. That would make Him a liar... and a hypocrit... both of which we all know He is not.
 
So there's my take.

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Chris, if I can remember, I will do an entire Sabbath Day article on the main page for this coming Saturday (The Sabbath).

But here is a hint:  In the very end-times, which is not yet right now, Jesus says we are to pray that our flight be not on a Sabbath Day!  Think about that.



1) The Bible Sabbath is on Saturday, while Sunday is “the first day of the week” (Matthew 28:1; Mark 16:1-2, etc).
2) The New Testament is silent about Sunday being set aside in honour of Jesus Christ’s resurrection.
3) The Sabbath is not Jewish, but belongs to God (Exodus 20:10).
4) Jesus Christ regularly kept the Sabbath (Luke 4:16), taught much about the Sabbath (Matthew 12:12; 24:20), and clearly stated that He is “Lord even of the Sabbath day” (Matthew 12:8).
5) Jesus Christ never mentioned “the first day of the week” even one time. He taught nothing about it.
6) There is no biblical authorization for the change of the Bible Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday.
7) The Sabbath continues after the cross (Luke 23:54-56) and was kept in the book of Acts by both Jews and Gentiles (Acts 13:42-44; 16:13).
8) God made the Sabbath at the beginning of the world (Genesis 2:1-3) before any Jews existed, to be a blessing to all people. Most importantly, it is a special sign that Jesus Christ is the true Creator of heaven and earth (see John 1:1-3, 10; Colossians 1:16; Exodus 20:11; Ezekiel 20:12).
9) Bible prophecy and history both testify that the Roman Catholic Church changed the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday. Daniel 7:25.
10) Rediscovering the Sabbath of Jesus Christ is part of Bible prophecy in the end times (closely compare Revelation 14:6-7 with Exodus 20:11).
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I have begun to believe that the Sabbath day is indeed Saturday and should be followed. A friend of mine sent me this:

Nine of the Ten Commandments are "taught" in the New Testament (Ex. 20: 1-17, Rom. 13, Jas. 2). The early church "observed" the First Day of the week, not the seventh day, the Sabbath (Acts 20: 7, I Cor. 16: 1, 2). The First Day is when Jesus' resurrected, the gospel was first preached in its fullness, the church was established, remission of sin based on Jesus' blood was enjoyed, etc. (Acts 2). In fact, Gentiles, as such (you and I), were never commanded to keep the Sabbath (Deut. 5: 1-3, see Col.2: 14 ff).

what's your take?

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