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No way would i want to go down there! Its a tomb and should be left alone!!! Its one thing visiting a cemetary to see your loved ones headstone or even visiting a graveyard to marvel at the ornate carvings and loving prose but its quite another to dive headlong into a lair or in this case dive into the sea and into the ship! Its disrespectful in my opinion.
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NOW YOU CAN GO ON TITANIC-WRECK VACATIONS

Travel firm to take divers down to remnants of famous sunken cruise ship

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(EXPRESS) – TITANIC aficionados are about to receive an unprecedented opportunity for their next holiday, to dive down to the wreckage of the famous sunken cruise ship.

A UK travel company is set to launch tours to the shipwreck of the RMS Titanic.

London-based Blue Marble Private will take groups of nine at a time, on an adventure deep under water.

Spanning a length of eight days, the pioneering journey will depart from the coast of Newfoundland, heading 370 miles to the wreckage.



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Revealed: How bodies of third-class Titanic passengers were tossed OVERBOARD so first and second class victims could be given proper funerals

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Sobering new historical evidence has shown the grisly aftermath of the Titanic. Telegrams (pictured) reveal bodies of third-class victims were left at sea to make room for richer passengers.

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The Plain Truth is that this theory is NOT new.  This was proposed back in the 1980's, and I have always wondered why nobody has taken a serious look at this. The Titanic was built by, and managed by and piloted by IDIOTS and CRIMINALS!   Why wouldn't they "fake" the iceberg story to cover the fact that bad inferior rivets just FELL OFF, caused by the fire in the boiler and the cold water.  The plates just popped off!   I have believed this "theory" since the day I first read it.

Was a FIRE the real reason the 'unsinkable' Titanic went down? Documentary claims a boiler room blaze had been raging since the liner set sail from Southampton

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A new documentary says a fire in a coalbunker caused serious damage to the Titanic's hull - in the same area where the iceberg later hit - and is the real reason she sank in the North Atlantic.

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The Titanic's last lifeboat: Extraordinary photos reveal the wooden vessel containing three rotting bodies which was found by a passing liner a month later and 200 miles away 

The Titanic's last lifeboat pictured which still contained rotting bodies when it was

The wooden lifeboat, the last to be cast off from the doomed Titanic, was spotted some 200 miles from the wreck site by crew on board the passing RMS Oceanic on May 13, 1912. On board were the decompo

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Now a 104 years ago!

Re-live the sinking of the Titanic in real time: Visually stunning video captures every moment of doomed ship's last hours

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Newly discovered telegram sent from Titanic proves that owners may have lied about not knowing it was in peril

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British Freemasons fixed inquiry into Titanic to protect Establishment, claims secret archive that lists two million members - including Winston Churchill

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The investigation into the 1912 Titanic tragedy that left 1,500 people dead cleared almost all of those involved. An archive of two million names of members from 1733 to 1923 is set to be published.

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Was this the red paint-scarred iceberg that sank the Titanic? Picture taken from passing ship just hours after sinking

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Over the past few weeks, much has been written and remembered about the Titanic, which famously sank exactly one hundred years ago yesterday. But while the story the hubris surrounding Titanic has been told again and again, not so much has been said about its nemesis - the iceberg that sent it to a watery grave. These pictures, taken after the Titanic sank, show what is quite possibly the only photographic evidence of the ice floe that caused the tragedy.



'Just found out the Titanic really happened!' The tweeters who thought world's most famous shipwreck was just a film

Fact? Most historians agree that the Titanic was real and did hit an iceberg

A number of tweeters have used the micro-blogging site to confess that they were unaware that the Titanic was a real ship as the world commemorates the centenary of its sinking.

       
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Haunting pictures of boots and a coat show deep sea graves of Titanic victims for first time 

Newly-released photos show the haunting images of Titanic victim's clothing lining the bottom of the ocean floor 100 years after the New York-bound ship sank in the North Atlantic.

A 2004 photograph, released to the public for the first time this week in an uncropped version to coincide with the disaster's centenary, shows a coat and boots in the mud at the legendary shipwreck site.

It came as the passengers of a cruise ship retracing the route of the ill-fated liner RMS Titanic held an emotional memorial service at the exact spot where the ship sank on its maiden voyage a century ago.

'These are not shoes that fell out neatly from somebody's bag right next to each other,' said James Delgado, the director of maritime heritage at the National Oceanic and Atmosphere Administration.

What remains: The fact that the pair of boots were found so close to each other implies that they were probably on the feet of a victim whose body has since disintegrated

What remains: The fact that the pair of boots were found so close to each other implies that they were probably on the feet of a victim whose body has since disintegrated

The way they are 'laid out' makes a 'compelling case' that it is where 'someone has come to rest,' he said.

The image, along with two others showing pairs of boots resting next to each other, were taken during an expedition led by NOAA and famed Titanic finder Robert Ballard in 2004. They were published in Ballard's book on the expedition. Mr Delgado said the one showing a coat and boots was cropped to show only a boot.

 

The New York Times first reported about the photographs in Saturday editions.

Filmmaker James Cameron, who has visited the wreck 33 times, told the newspaper that he had seen 'zero human remains' during his extensive explorations of the Titanic.

'We've seen shoes. We've seen pairs of shoes, which would strongly suggest there was a body there at one point. But we've never seen any human remains,' Mr Cameron said.

More findings: A number of pairs were found near a coat and some other items in the sea bed

More findings: A number of pairs were found near a coat and some other items in the sea bed

For Mr Delgado, who was the chief scientist on an expedition in 2010 that mapped the entire site, the difference in opinion is 'one of semantics.'

'I as an archaeologist would say those are human remains,' he said, referring to the photograph of the coat and boots specifically.

'Buried in that sediment are very likely forensic remains of that person.'

He said in an email that the images 'speak to the power of that tragic and powerful scene 2 1/2 miles below' and 'to its resilience as an undersea museum, as well as its fragility.'

Extrapolating: Though previous expeditions, like that of film-maker James Cameron, said that they did not see human remains, others feel that it is obvious that the victims bodies were there at one point

Extrapolating: Though previous expeditions, like that of film-maker James Cameron, said that they did not see human remains, others feel that it is obvious that the victims bodies were there at one point

'This is an appropriate time to note the human cost of that event, and the fact that in this special place at the bottom of the sea, evidence of the human cost, in the form of the shattered wreck, the scattered luggage, fittings and other artifacts, and the faint but unmistakable evidence that this is where people came to rest, is present,' he said.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2130042/Titanic-100th-anniversary-Shoes-coat-wreck-site-implies-likely-resting-place-human-remains.html#ixzz1s8IXZKn3


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The Passenger List:

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It is 100 years ago today that the tragedy happened, today, on the main page of The Plain Truth, we are running some stories on the disaster.  Still one of the worst peacetime disasters at sea, the sinking of the RMS Titanic on her maiden voyage in the early hours of April 15, 1912 claimed the lives of over 1,500 people.
In all of the stories about the sinking, one cannot forget that some of the richest men in the world chose to die like men, and not "buy their way out" of their doom!  One such moving tale of this that we are running is entitled:

'No woman shall be left aboard this ship because Ben Guggenheim was a coward,'

While others rushed to the lifeboats as the ship sank, millionaire Benjamin Guggenheim stoically sat sipping brandy with his personal secretary Victor Giglio, declaring they were 'prepared to go down like gentlemen'.

Mr. Guggenheim was a man that knew how to die, and an inspiration to us all, and we should never forget men and women like him. On board those who chose to die that were very rich:
- American millionaire John Jacob Astor IV, who was one of the richest men in America, went down with the ship in 1912 after helping his pregnant wife escape into the last lifeboat. Astor enjoyed a pampered existence as a member of one of New York's most powerful families. But he was also a keen inventor — creating an early form of air conditioning by blowing cold air over the hotel's wall vents — and an avid bibliophile. With the help of Thornwillow Press, a small publisher of limited-edition books, the hotel is in the process of restoring and cataloguing the nearly 3,000 books Astor left behind. Astor was last spotted smoking a cigar on the deck. His body was later pulled out of the sea. His wife gave birth to a son weeks later. “I think he stayed to the very end, putting people in lifeboats,” said Drexel, his granddaughter. “He never tried to escape himself.”

- Irish businessman Thomas Andrews, who had overseen the ship's construction. Certainly one of the more famous people post-disaster was Ulsterman Thomas Andrews, the engineer who oversaw the construction of the Titanic. It was regular practice for designers and engineers to travel on the maiden voyage to assess the design and note problems, but Andrews was confident in “his” Titanic and considered it as finely built as possible, However, once he determined that the gash caused by striking the iceberg was more than the separate hulls could handle, he knew that it was going to sink. He stayed on board to the end, helping passengers and taking every second he could before his dream sank forever.

- American millionaire Benjamin Guggenheim.  (see story above)

- American owner of the Macy's department store, Isidor Straus, and his wife, Ida.  Isidor, 67, and Ida Straus, 63, were returning from an extended overseas trip when they booked first-class passage on the maiden voyage of the giant new luxury liner, buying a ticket that would cost almost $25,000 at today’s prices. They set sail from the British port of Southampton on April 10, 1912. The Strauses were immortalized through eyewitness reports of how they died. Isidor Straus, though a prominent philanthropist, former congressman and man of great power, declined a seat in a lifeboat, holding to the rules of the sea that called for women and children to be rescued first. His wife, with whom he had raised six children, refused to be separated from her husband.

“As we have lived, so will we die together,” eyewitnesses reported her saying. “Isidor, my place is with you.”

- Canadian railroad president Charles Hays.

- American cricket player John Borland Thayer.

- English journalist William Thomas Stead.

- American military aide Major Archibald Willingham Butt.

- American writer Jacques Futrelle.



Even the captain, who recklessly caused the accident (by traveling too fast in known iceberg seas) went out a hero and unlike the captain of the Concordia, went down with his ship.


There is a villain however:

(from : http://www.titanic-whitestarships.com/Owners2.htm ) Joseph Bruce Ismay, (Bruce Ismay) Managing Director of IMMC and President of the White Star Line. Ismay's father had owned White Star and passed it on to Bruce Ismay. Ismay was against IMMC's takeover of White Star but was out-voted by the WSL board of directors. Morgan asked Ismay to stay on as  Managing Director of IMMC and President of the White Star Line; which he reluctantly agreed to do. Ismay survived the Titanic disaster and was ridiculed for the rest of his life by the press and public for not going down with the ship, although he was exonerated by the formal British and American Inquiries of any wrongdoing. He resigned from IMMC after the Titanic disaster and the White Star Line would not allow him to retain his position. He was apparently thought of highly enough to be asked in desperation in 1933 by White Star Line management to come back and save the company from a merger with Cunard. But it was too late to be saved. Ismay died at home in Ireland in 1937 at the age of 74.



Ismay, who fought against adding more lifeboats, shamelessly took a seat on one to save his own life.

God Bless all who died that sad day, and may God remember those who made the sacrifice to save others.
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