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I saw this book in my bookstore today. It was the first time I have seen it except for here. I thumbed through it and read a bit. It looked fun, but I didn't buy it. I don't know squat about the Bible so I don't know how much I can get shocked.

Well, I think this book would be a GREAT help in getting you to know your bible.. Unlike today's ministries that teach untruths as doctrine, this gives you nothing but the Bible...no lies, no twisting of words, no generations of misunderstanding.

I thought I knew enough of the Bible that it wouldn't shock me, but it did. And not only that, it changed my life and how I read the Bible. Now it's more clear and informative than it was.

 
Not too mention, I found a few friends because of it

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I saw this book in my bookstore today. It was the first time I have seen it except for here. I thumbed through it and read a bit. It looked fun, but I didn't buy it. I don't know squat about the Bible so I don't know how much I can get shocked.
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So, when someone says that we are all children of God, they are actually wrong. An atheist/non-believer is only created in His image, but until they believe they are not actual 'children of God' (in the gestation period anyway).

......I got it now. Thanks sooo much!!


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REPLY FROM JOE:

I think they are misunderstanding what I said. The issue of "God the Father" not being mentioned in the Old Testament has nothing to do with the well-known phrase "we're all God's children." It's totally unrelated.
 
Having said that, we humans are all living beings created in the image of God. Animals are not created in the image of God. And we humans do have the ability to become the actual sons of God, eternally alive, composed-of-spirit offspring of the Creator. We just have not been born yet into the God Family, the God Kingdom (however you wish to phrase it).
 
But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. (John 1:12-13)
 
So yes, true believers are now the children of God, we're just in gestation waiting to be born into our new spirit-composed bodies.
 
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I will e-mail him to ask for his answer. I think I know what he means (Jesus is not our Father, but it is confusing)..

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In reading one the Shocked by the Bible reviews, I found something that struck me as odd. I know Jesus was the God of the OT, which makes a lot of sense, since no one has seen God the Father. But...this confused me a little bit:
 
"*God was not The Father in the OT (which goes hand in hand with the misconception that we are all God's children) "

If we aren't ALL God's children, then well, how does that figure in? It would make a lot of sense on some verses in the NT, and one would have to put predestination in there as well.

Is it that we aren't ALL His children and only some of us are, or is it that we ALL are not His children period?
 
Thanks for the help!!!!



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In reading one the Shocked by the Bible reviews, I found something that struck me as odd. I know Jesus was the God of the OT, which makes a lot of sense, since no one has seen God the Father. But...this confused me a little bit:
 
"*God was not The Father in the OT (which goes hand in hand with the misconception that we are all God's children) "

If we aren't ALL God's children, then well, how does that figure in? It would make a lot of sense on some verses in the NT, and one would have to put predestination in there as well.

Is it that we aren't ALL His children and only some of us are, or is it that we ALL are not His children period?
 
Thanks for the help!!!!




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“It cannot be emphasized too clearly and too often that this nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religion, but on the gospel of Jesus Christ. For this very reason, peoples of other faiths have been afforded asylum, prosperity, and freedom of worship here.” ~ Patrick Henry [May 1765 Speech to the House of Burgesses]
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