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HappyMammaof2

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An awesome book to read to help you understand just how many mistakes are in those other versions is New Age Versions of the Bible by G. A. Riplinger. She goes through it seemingly verse by verse, comparing the KJV to all others. It's amazing to see how watered down the deity of Christ becomes, and how much more 'pity' the newer versions give to Satan.
 
And you are right, Chris. People would be better off reading the Bible, but some of them just want to burn it instead (probably out of a deep rooted fear). But even those who read it without Christ in their hearts can still glean a little bit of righteousness from reading it.

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I personally like the American Standard Bible, it is as accurate as the King James but easier to read. The NIV is good too. The first Bible I ever read was called The Good News Bible and it was much like the Living Bible with modern easy to understand languauge. Bob is right on not trusting those Bibles for accuarcy because they are full of errors. It's a shame that your family will not read the Bible because I think when people start reading the Bible their lives change for the good.

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Thanks Bob. But sadly, my family will not touch a Bible let alone read one. But I will keep all you said in mind if I come across someone willing to start reading one!!!!


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If one is very well educated in old English, I always suggest reading the NEW LIVING TRANSLATION FIRST! It is filled with all types of errors, but one gets the sense of God and His message. The Spirit of God is there... Then move to the other translations, like New Century, NIV, NKJV and finally compare with the King James version. If you start reading the Bible in the NLT (New Living Translation) you will LOVE THE STORIES and want to keep reading. Bring no prior doctrine with you! Allow the Bible to speak for itself. NEXT, always read the Gospel of John, chapter 1 BEFORE reading the Old Testamant! This mill make the Old Testament very clear and who the God speaking really is!

In Shocked By The Bible, you will easily read (the book is very easy and fun to read) some sexy, funny and down-right "unBiblical stuff"!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL

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I know...it's sometimes really hard to deal with. Gatherings aren't exactly 'family filled with love' gatherings.

I was just at my Mom's this past week and we got into a fight because she has supposedly read the Bible, yet quotes from Shakespear swearing she read it in the Bible. And she tries to tell me things that don't even make sense, saying once again she 'read them in the Bible'. If she read it, which I can't personally say she didn't, it was over 45 years ago. And she didn't read it with Christ in her heart (big difference!). And I try to maintain my faith and composure during these gatherings, but it is extremely difficult.

This weekend we are gathering for our family's yearly "Christmas" celebration. We all drive great distances to meet at my sister's (the atheist) house. While there, they will be drinking in excess, the pork will be eaten, and all the while they say things jokingly towards me and mine that are quite mean. Sometimes, I don't even want to be there with them...because I see how much they smack God with their ways.

I can understand why Jesus said He didn't come to bring peace but to divide families. Our faith really does do just that. And I can see a time in the future where I will no longer desire to see my family anymore. How sad is that?


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You know the sick thing Donna, the mainstream world has more in common with your family than they do with you! Don't fret however, because actually there is some Good News (Gospel means Good News) and that is Jesus predicted it:

John 16: 1 "I have told you these things so that you won't fall away.

2 For you will be expelled from the synagogues, and the time is coming when those who kill you will think they are doing God a service.

3 This is because they have never known the Father or me.

and again:
Matthew 5:

Blessed are ye, when [men] shall revile you, and persecute [you], and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great [is] your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.


Mark 13: 13--And ye shall be hated of all [men] for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.


Notice the word ALL MEN. Not Muslims, not atheist - all people will hate those who will proclaim the Gospel of Christ. This includes many mainstream mainline Christians!


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I wish it were that they just didn't want to follow His rules....but here's the list...
 
Mom. Devout tarot card reader, into ESP. Believes Jesus was a good guy, really smart and loving. God is just a powerful energy source, and we will all attain 'heaven' at the end. Taught all of us to follow the path we choose...but really played the ESP thing up as we were growing up.
 
Younger Sis #1. Devout atheist. There is nothing to believe in. Thinks I am in a cult.
 
Younger Sis #2. Believes God is an unimaginable power source. Is all-loving, and definitly not the God I follow (cuz He is 'mean' and 'cruel' in her mind). Does deep meditation and swears that the spirits who speak through her are from God. (Yes, she is a medium..and is quite freaky to watch). Believes I am also in a cult, but understands the need to adhere to one's beliefs.
 
All three of them believe there is absolutely nothing one can do about the coming events and thinks I am afraid to die. They think I run all day screaming ''the sky is falling! The sky is falling" instead of living for the day. What they don't understand is the 'theories' I watch pertain to Bible prophecy and to one who doesn't understand the concept of watching in HAPPY anticipation for these things because it means the Lord is coming back...they think I am a nut case.
 
I pray for them, but sometimes...

I just hope they come to their senses before He does come back, because I can just see the look they will give me when they are on bended knee before the King...."why didn't you tell us??!!"


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Don't fret, probably 50% or more are just like your family. Most Americans today either really don't believe or they are just too stubborn to follow the rules God set forth. I once told someone who told me that he wouldn't believe that cruel God of the Old Testament... My reply is that just because you don't believe in that God, doesn't make Him real or not. Your problem is, I said to this person, is you better hope you are right, your very life depends on it!
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I'm sorry Tammy.... my whole family (and my husband's) are non-believers in God. My family are non-believers in God and Conspiracy theories, especially theories on a One World Gov.
 
Seems that most of the more 'popular' conspiracy theories today center around biblical prophecies. The "one world order", "one world religion". And both are definitly coming.

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After reading the story on the Plain Truth, one has to wonder about some of this.

http://www.plaintruth.com/the_plain_truth/2008/12/and-now-for-a-world-government.html



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I am all for a good conspiracy theory. As a matter of fact, my family (all non-believers) think I am a conspiracy nut. Which, I guess I am.

But, at what point does a conspiracy become fact? With so much going on these days...it's hard to decipher fact from fiction. You can't get straight news anymore. You can't get all of the facts, just the ones which make for more papers to be bought. You can't tell who is lying and who is telling the truth anymore. Like the 9/11 disasters, the coffins outside of the CDC and other big cities, the govt stockpiling frozen and canned foods, detention camps...there are so many out there. And what's worse is that they are no longer sounding like 'conspiracy theories' but are now placed in the "will actually happen" category.

I was just wondering what everyone else thought.


Hi Happy Momma (of 2)  ,

A conspiracy nut in what respect? When you say the Family are all non-believers, believers in what? God or conspiracy's? 

That one detention camp (gitmo) is being closed when " TEO " takes over.

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Glad to see you on and posting! This is what The Plain Truth and especially this discussion board is all about. Everyone  is a reporter and a commentator and this helps me find the stories for the main site that people will want to read.
 
We have grown tremendously in our first 2 months and I thank everyone for this.
 
Even though I do not adhere to most conspiracy theories, I did have a poster in college that read:
 
Just because you are paranoid
Doesn't mean that they aren't really
out to get you!
 
Some conspiracies do exist. Satan, the father of lies and deciet is behind many conspiracies that those involved don't even realize exist! Most people don't think they are doing Satan's work, not even the Germans in WWII!
 
I have never heard anyone say "I go to the wrong church!"  But according to God, many do!
 

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I am all for a good conspiracy theory. As a matter of fact, my family (all non-believers) think I am a conspiracy nut. Which, I guess I am.

But, at what point does a conspiracy become fact? With so much going on these days...it's hard to decipher fact from fiction. You can't get straight news anymore. You can't get all of the facts, just the ones which make for more papers to be bought. You can't tell who is lying and who is telling the truth anymore. Like the 9/11 disasters, the coffins outside of the CDC and other big cities, the govt stockpiling frozen and canned foods, detention camps...there are so many out there. And what's worse is that they are no longer sounding like 'conspiracy theories' but are now placed in the "will actually happen" catagory.

I was just wondering what everyone else thought.

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“It cannot be emphasized too clearly and too often that this nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religion, but on the gospel of Jesus Christ. For this very reason, peoples of other faiths have been afforded asylum, prosperity, and freedom of worship here.” ~ Patrick Henry [May 1765 Speech to the House of Burgesses]
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