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MayJam, Liverpoo, UK
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Their 2nd Amendment rights. Invaluable. The right to defend themselves. We had ours taken away from us. All we got in return was apathy and Liberal injustice. ¿Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun. Our principle is that the Party commands the gun, and the gun must never be allowed to command the Party". Mao Tse Tung, Nov 1938. This is why the Democrats want to abolish the 2nd Amendment and take their guns away from them. They mustn't let them!!!


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ASTEC
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Damn I guess Gang Bangers won't be buying their ammo from FFL dealers anymore. Oh wait, they never did. lmao
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Civilians will be able to buy historic military WW1 pistols under a bill being considered by the President

Civilians can buy historic M1911 pistol from US Army

Between 8,000 and 10,000 M1911 handguns would be made available for sale by the U.S. Army in 2018 on a first-come, first-served basis. The pistol was made the U.S. army's standard handgun in 1911 and remained so until 1986. The guns that would be available for purchase for the most part predate 1945. Each gun will be in a different condition and will have had a different history, and so will be priced individually.

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New Law Makes Buying Ammo A Lot Harder 

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Bullets Up close (ShutterStock/Thanatos Media)

Gun owners won't like this

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State prepares to challenge U.S. gun laws

'This is an issue where the federal government has no business'

Posted: August 25, 2009
10:21 pm Eastern


By Bob Unruh
© 2009 WorldNetDaily

Montana statehouse

Supporters of a first-of-a-kind law in Montana that declared weapons or ammunition made and kept in Montana were exempt from federal rules are preparing for a court challenge to the federal government's insistence it will regulate those items.

The Montana Shooting Sports Association and the Second Amendment Foundation have formed a strategic alliance with plans to litigate over the Montana Firearms Freedom Act.

The bill was passed by the 2009 Montana Legislature and signed into law by Montana Gov. Brian Schweitzer

When Montana drew a line in the sand and challenged the federal government to follow the U.S. Constitution with the law that exempts from federal regulations any gun, gun accessory or ammunition made in the state and intended for use there.

The law provides guns and ammo made, sold and used in Montana do not require any federal forms, silencers made in Montana and sold in Montana would be fully legal and not registered and there would be no firearm registration, serial numbers, criminal records check, waiting periods or paperwork required.

The move is spreading quickly, too. Tennessee already has a similar law and similar plans have been introduced in Alaska, Texas, Florida, South Carolina, Minnesota and Michigan. Lawmakers in nearly 20 other states already have such plans in the works, too, officials confirmed.

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In an era in which the administration of President Barack Obama is replete with anti-gun activists in influential positions, including an attorney general who supported a complete handgun ban in the District of Columbia before it was tossed by the U.S. Supreme Court, Montana's move is being called nothing less that revolutionary.

Montana's plan is called, "An Act exempting from federal regulation under the Commerce Clause of the Constitution of the United States a firearm, a firearm accessory, or ammunition manufactured and retained in Montana."

The plan cites the 10th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution that guarantees to the states and their people all powers not granted to the federal government elsewhere in the Constitution and reserves to the state and people of Montana certain powers as they were understood at the time that Montana was admitted to statehood in 1889.

"The guaranty of those powers is a matter of contract between the state and people of Montana and the United States as of the time that the compact with the United States was agreed upon and adopted by Montana and the United States in 1889," the legislation states.

Now the sports association and the SAF are working to set up a legal challenge to federal power under the Constitution's Commerce Clause.

"MSSA and SAF expect to mount this legal challenge by filing a suit for a declaratory judgment to test the principles of the MFFA in federal court on October 1st, the day the Montana law becomes effective," the organizations said in today's announcement.

The groups cited the massive wave of interest developing in the concept.

"This … interest across the nation is what the federal judiciary calls 'emerging consensus' and will play an important role in validating the principles of the MFFA," the groups said.

"We're excited to get the MFFA into court to articulate and argue the principles of freedom and states' rights. It's especially encouraging that people in so many other states are getting tickets to ride this particular freedom train. It will be an interesting journey, and we hope successful one," said MSSA president Gary Marbut.

SAF founder Alan Gottlieb added, "This is an issue that needs public attention because it challenges federal intrusion into an area where the federal government clearly, and literally, has no business."

Although the Montana law addresses firearms, ammunition and firearm accessories specifically, it is primarily about states' rights and the commerce clause power of Congress. Firearms are the object; states' rights and freedom are the subject, the groups said.

WND also reported earlier when Tennessee adopted its law, federal gun regulators wrote to gun dealers with a threat that they had to ignore the state requirement.

The letter was distributed to holders of Federal Firearms Licenses.

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right now, Glenn Beck's show is the best show on TV

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Glenn Beck is reporting that Obama is toying with the idea of a huge tax increase on ammo. Need to watch how supportive this guy really is of gun rights. I already know the truth. I liar is a liar.


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Glenn Beck is reporting that Obama is toying with the idea of a huge tax increase on ammo. Need to watch how supportive this guy really is of gun rights. I already know the truth. I liar is a liar.
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THE GOVERNMENT WILL NEVER STOP AMERICANS FROM OWNING GUNS. SOME WIMPS WILL REGISTER THEM BUT US OLE COUNTRY BOYS WILL NEVER GIVE OUR ARMS.
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I will not buy a registered gun. I own about 6. I bought them from private owners.

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I have a friend who is a private dealer (no registration needed in many gun shows) He told me that in the last six months, he has made more money than in the past 3 years. He averages 3-4 gun sales a month. He has sold privately over 100 guns in the past 6 months and has a problem getting enough guns to sell. I own 3 guns. I would never buy a gun from a registered dealer because the guns numbers are registered with the government. Bad idea to do this. I think that many understand the need to own guns and that the less uncle sam knows about it the safer you will be when they come for the guns.

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I have a friend who is a private dealer (no registration needed in many gun shows) He told me that in the last six months, he has made more money than in the past 3 years. He averages 3-4 gun sales a month. He has sold privately over 100 guns in the past 6 months and has a problem getting enough guns to sell. I own 3 guns. I would never buy a gun from a registered dealer because the guns numbers are registered with the government. Bad idea to do this. I think that many understand the need to own guns and that the less uncle sam knows about it the safer you will be when they come for the guns.
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So maybe some of these Obama haters secretly voted for him. That would explain things.

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Obama named 'Gun Salesman of the Year' 
'It's not a hard tea leaf to read ... frightened consumers into action'
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I saw this in an online newspaper:

Gun sales soaring

Gun and ammunition sales are shooting up across the country, spurred by firearm enthusiasts' fears that once the new Democratic administration takes office, it will push stricter gun control legislation through the Democrat-dominated House and Senate.

Business owners say that more people are expressing concern that there will be more gun control laws enacted, along with an increase in tax on ammunition. Another reason sales are up is that some fear a sour economy will increase crime.

Although Florida does not keep records of gun sales, federal data show background checks needed to purchase a firearm are up sharply in the first nine months of this year. In Florida, concealed weapon permit applications in September jumped 52 percent compared with September 2007.

Further, 22,249 Floridians applied for a concealed weapon permit in September, a 52 percent increase from September 2007, according to the Division of Licensing in the Florida Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services.

While Wayne LaPierre, executive vice president of the National Rifle Association, attributes some of the sales boom to the tanking economy, he thinks the Democratic sweep is the top reason why guns are suddenly a hot commodity.

"I don't think he (Obama) will be able to stand up to that anti-Second Amendment wing of the Democratic party that's just been spoiling for a chance to ban America's guns," LaPierre said. During the campaign, the NRA warned that Obama would be the "most anti-gun president in American history."

And while Vice President-elect Joe Biden owns shotguns, he has supported a ban on assault weapons and has said private sellers at gun shows should be required to perform background checks.

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WEAPONS OF CHOICE
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Obama election triggers national gun rush
FBI reports 49% increase in firearm background checks in 1 week
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No gun has to be registered in the US but machine guns. As long as you buy any gun from an individual and not a dealer, there is no records that need to be kept.

by 'individual', what do you mean? my husband and I are thinking of getting one, or two, or four, and I want to make sure they don't know we have one. If you don't want to write it here...you can email me...


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I don't own one....yet.

My husband and I both feel the time is now to get one though. Not just for safety reasons, but also because food is going to be scarce and if we are here for the duration, well, scarfing a deer here and there would be of great benefit.

Whether it's because of Obama or not, it doesn't matter. What's scary is that more people feel the need all of the sudden, and that just doesn't sit well with me.

My Mom, a devout tarot card reader and person who thinks Jesus was a great man (not God), said the people within her group (of the same mind) all feel a BIG GIANT change coming. And they are even feeling a little eerie about it.

As Obama has said repeatedly...."Change is about to come to America!!!!" It sure is, but not what most would expect.

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Well, you heard it from me first, now someone else is saying the same thing!!!

Gun Sales On Rise In FL On Fear Of An Obama Presidency



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Gun sales
go boom!

Purchases of firearms, ammo
rise 8 to 10 percent this year
       
--Washington Post


Is the real reason have to do with the fear of an Obama election, banning guns and destroying the second amendment? How about the fear of riots? I think these are the two real reasons for the surge...
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