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We actually run a paint company (we manufacture auto/fleet and industrial paints) and got into racing as a sponsor many years ago. We started RaceRap as a discussion site for local racing and have grown into the largest one in the world. The Plain Truth was supposed to be more like RaceRap in format, but we ran out of money to complete it, so I did it as best as I could do on a budget. I like The RaceRap message board much better, but the search features and the new posts going back to the top, is nice.

The Plain Truth has been a ten year project and I finally got off my rump last year to fulfill my oath to God! I am glad that you like it. It may never be as big as RaceRap, but it is what I was really put here to do. We will not sell advertisements to this site and if it does grow, it will come from God. If not, so be it.

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I just figured out that racerap is for talking racing. I had thought it had to do with race, you know black, white yellow. I plugged in the web address and visited it today for the first time. I like the format much better than here. What do you have to do with racing?
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I just figured out that racerap is for talking racing. I had thought it had to do with race, you know black, white yellow. I plugged in the web address and visited it today for the first time. I like the format much better than here. What do you have to do with racing?
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I'll have you know, I'm a minority. A white male who can actually think.

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nicely put Tammy. You do realize you are a racist don't you? How dare you not have a minority work for you, but to top it off you don't even have one in your family. You racist, lol.

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nicely put Tammy. You do realize you are a racist don't you? How dare you not have a minority work for you, but to top it off you don't even have one in your family. You racist, lol.

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I don't claim to be perfect at spelling, but I'm sure we did for the report. The fact that she didn't know who he was tells me she would not know that it was misspelled anyway.

I know what your statement was about. Our shop is in Norfolk where many of our good customers are black. We employ no one at Tamco other than Family, so no people of color other than white. We do have a black homeless man that comes around to do odd jobs who we help take care of, if that counts. I know racism is a learned and wrong behavior. One of my points was that it comes from both colors/sides. Blacks can do and say what whites can't, that's a fact, not an opinion. That's wrong too, just like affirmative action is wrong.

About Keyes disowning his daughter. I say hate the sin, not the sinner. I'm not judging him for that as I'll leave that to God. At least he didn't kill her though.

Like I said, not wanting Obama as President has nothing to do with his color, but his politics on MANY levels. I only started with abortion of the worst kind. Partial Birth abortion is as bad as it gets. The actual act is so gruesome ,it is more than can be described. It's BRUTAL!!!!

Since you asked my opinion on Birth Control I'll give. But first to correct you on one part. Birth Control (the pill) is not abortion. No conception takes place. I don't believe God wants us to use birth control, but that is anyones decission to do. The bible says in Deu 30:19, I call heaven and earth as witnesses today against you, [that] I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing; therefore choose life, that both you and your descendants may live;   Deu 30:20 that you may love the LORD your God, that you may obey His voice, and that you may cling to Him, for He [is] your life and the length of your days; and that you may dwell in the land which the LORD swore to your fathers, to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, to give them."   I would determine that to mean don't abort a baby.

With the way adoption is today being so political and difficult to come by, people that don't want their babies could get everything paid for to have it, and maybe even make money on it too, not that I believe in that but it's better than death and being raised by someone who really wants you.

God did not put any of that in our heart, we have the right to choose it. He would prefer we choose love. The part that many don't understand about God is that we have free will. He does NOT mess with our free will. If he did he would make all of love him and each other...and that does not happen. Also there would be no such thing as racism, and there is.


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I would say that Will was making a joke about the spelling mistake

I know sarcasm is difficult to detect on the internet, but I don't believe there was a serious meaning behind it


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In Reply to: Obama by Will Robertson - NC on January 21, 2009 at 9:48pm        

Whenever one runs out of arguments, they tend to go to spelling mistakes. I will let u in on a secret, we are very busy people who write fast, make plenty of mistakes and work some 18 hours a day.I have a college degree, yet make stupid spelling mistakes. Do you have a college degree? Should that be what is important? As for Tammy, she dropped out of school and worked full time since she was 15 years old! She owns her own business, worked for a fortune 500 company and was the 8th highest salesperson that they had out of 300 plus people (and only 2 women by the way)and has made more money than I have many years.   I value that experience much more than those who love to ridicule others. Ideas from anyone is no less important than anyone else, including yours regardless how one spells, or how fast they type.

You know what the press had to say about the Gettysburg address? They ridiculed the dumb backwoods president for making so many grammar mistakes. Should only the racers that actually win races be the one's with the only opinions that matter? Or racers who drive "real race cars?" Then, I guess we have to decide what is a real race car and a real racer.

I understand where you come from. You are liberal. Liberals attack those that they can not intelligently argue with. You do not value life of the unborn, it isn't a human to you. According to God, YOU are not yet born. That happens at the resurrection of the dead, when God returns. I'm glad God doesn't have the same feeling about the unborn as you do, cause you wouldn't have a shot of making it if he did, just like all those aborted babies don't have a shot of making it because of self centered people who care about what's best for them and not what is best for all.



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Posted by: Will Robertson - NC         on January 21, 2009 at 9:48pm
        In Reply to: Obama by Tammy Barney on January 21, 2009 at 4:19pm        

Tammy, not quite sure you are coming from.   I have listened to Alan KEYES several times at conventions in Atlanta and Baltimore, fine man.   As for your disapointment for the grade, maybe the fact you mispelled his name caused the failure! :-)

My statement was that racism is a learned trait is evident even in your post.   The fact that Alan withdrew support and basically disowned his daughter Marva in 2005 for being a lesbeian, do you think that was fair?   How many people of color does your company employ?

As for abortion, we disagree somewhat in this area, but I respect your opinion.   Now, let's talk about birth control - where do you stand?   If life is formed at coception, then for of birth control are a form of abortion.   So you see, if there is hate and deceit in a person's life, he/she is beginning to die.   God did not place bitterness in our souls, He placed happiness and love.


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Will, lets be honest; there is racism on both sides from all colors in this Country. That's a fact. It doesn't mean that I condone it. Lets take Obama ‘s color out of it, because my not trusting him to lead this Great Country has NOTHING to do with his color. We voted for Alan Keys in the primaries when we lived in Fla. If you don't know who he is, he's a very dark black Conservative Republican. I state very dark so you know that he is not half white. We helped our Daughter do a school report about him for Black History month in February. Not only did the teacher NOT know who he was, she gave her a poor grade, and treated me with a nasty attitude. The teacher was white, but a democrat no doubt as most teachers are.

Now lets talk about not wanting to come together with someone whose policies we don’t agree with. Can we start with murder of the unborn? I don’t even mean in the first or second trimester when some dopes say it’s “just a fetus”. How about partial birth abortion!?! If you don’t know the TRUE definition of it, look it up. That is a true baby killing. Even Mothers crazy out of their minds do time in prison for that, but these Doctors can do it legally, and Obama agrees with it. Enough said on agreeing and pulling together. Could you attend by witnessing that kind of abortion/murder?

What's worse, racism or out right murder of a newborn baby? But it's time to pull together huh? I would have to condone that kind of baby murder first. That's just one example, but there are more that I will not go on about.
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Posted by: Will Robertson - NC         on January 21, 2009 at 9:48pm
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Tammy, not quite sure you are coming from.   I have listened to Alan KEYES several times at conventions in Atlanta and Baltimore, fine man.   As for your disapointment for the grade, maybe the fact you mispelled his name caused the failure! :-)

My statement was that racism is a learned trait is evident even in your post.   The fact that Alan withdrew support and basically disowned his daughter Marva in 2005 for being a lesbeian, do you think that was fair?   How many people of color does your company employ?

As for abortion, we disagree somewhat in this area, but I respect your opinion.   Now, let's talk about birth control - where do you stand?   If life is formed at coception, then for of birth control are a form of abortion.   So you see, if there is hate and deceit in a person's life, he/she is beginning to die.   God did not place bitterness in our souls, He placed happiness and love.


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Will, lets be honest; there is racism on both sides from all colors in this Country. That's a fact. It doesn't mean that I condone it. Lets take Obama ‘s color out of it, because my not trusting him to lead this Great Country has NOTHING to do with his color. We voted for Alan Keys in the primaries when we lived in Fla. If you don't know who he is, he's a very dark black Conservative Republican. I state very dark so you know that he is not half white. We helped our Daughter do a school report about him for Black History month in February. Not only did the teacher NOT know who he was, she gave her a poor grade, and treated me with a nasty attitude. The teacher was white, but a democrat no doubt as most teachers are.

Now lets talk about not wanting to come together with someone whose policies we don’t agree with. Can we start with murder of the unborn? I don’t even mean in the first or second trimester when some dopes say it’s “just a fetus”. How about partial birth abortion!?! If you don’t know the TRUE definition of it, look it up. That is a true baby killing. Even Mothers crazy out of their minds do time in prison for that, but these Doctors can do it legally, and Obama agrees with it. Enough said on agreeing and pulling together. Could you attend by witnessing that kind of abortion/murder?

What's worse, racism or out right murder of a newborn baby? But it's time to pull together huh? I would have to condone that kind of baby murder first. That's just one example, but there are more that I will not go on about.
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Posted by: NASCAR PHAN         on January 21, 2009 at 7:59pm
        In Reply to: Obama by WallsRoofing71 on January 21, 2009 at 3:16pm        

First, Larry, applause to you and your wife for adopting your daughter. I hope she has and always will make you guys proud. I really hate it for your wife to have to listen to such rediculousness from a "woman" who obviously has nothing in her own life to get ahead with so she lives "hoping" through someone else. I would get her on tape with a pocket recorder just to have it stopped. But I'm sure your wife isn't the only person she's laid that on....so she will get hers.

speeedym, as I was reading your post about having their own colleges and other things, try to think about living in a world where EVERYTHING around you is white. Mr Whipple, the Gerber baby, The Jetsons, The Flintstones, Popeye, Superman, Capt Crunch, Mickey Mouse, The Beaver, The Fonz, The Brawney Man, I could go on forever. Let's see, they have Fat Albert, Good Times, The Jeffersons and Sanford and Son to name a few. All of which are either a joke on their race or as in George Jefferson, a black man who made some money and now lives among nothing but white people. I had the (what I call opportunity) to attend nothing but mostly black Norfolk public schools, so I know from being around them for so long just what their lives are like. As 4 1/2 years on Suffolk PD (89-94) I've also had many times to witness everyday living conditions you probably wouldn't let your dog in. We, as white people, made it as hard on them as we could years ago so you can't blame them for doing and organizing things on their own. I know it's easy to be unhappy with certain things we deal with daily, but seeing a black man (however much he is) as President gives them hope that they can live in a world where everyone can be (as close to) equal.

I bet everyone I knew that there would be unruliness, fights, arrests and other incidents at the innaguration yesterday. I was wrong, I admit it. Doesn't that prove that maybe, just maybe this is a good thing for everyone? We all have to wait and see now.

As far as issues that he supports that we don't agree with, well that's no different than any other President we've ever had. We just have to rally to support changes on subjects as the one (and others) that Tammy spoke about.

****Dang you guys for starting this post (LOL), I hate talking politics....NOW, who's ready for the Shootout??? Where's the big party????

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Will, lets be honest; there is racism on both sides from all colors in this Country. That's a fact. It doesn't mean that I condone it. Lets take Obama ‘s color out of it, because my not trusting him to lead this Great Country has NOTHING to do with his color. We voted for Alan Keys in the primaries when we lived in Fla. If you don't know who he is, he's a very dark black Conservative Republican. I state very dark so you know that he is not half white. We helped our Daughter do a school report about him for Black History month in February. Not only did the teacher NOT know who he was, she gave her a poor grade, and treated me with a nasty attitude. The teacher was white, but a democrat no doubt as most teachers are.

Now lets talk about not wanting to come together with someone whose policies we don’t agree with. Can we start with murder of the unborn? I don’t even mean in the first or second trimester when some dopes say it’s “just a fetus”. How about partial birth abortion!?! If you don’t know the TRUE definition of it, look it up. That is a true baby killing. Even Mothers crazy out of their minds do time in prison for that, but these Doctors can do it legally, and Obama agrees with it. Enough said on agreeing and pulling together. Could you attend by witnessing that kind of abortion/murder?

What's worse, racism or out right murder of a newborn baby? But it's time to pull together huh? I would have to condone that kind of baby murder first. That's just one example, but there are more that I will not go on about.

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maybe you should do some research and you will see that I know what I am talking about. I have nothing against Obama himself, but I don't support his policies.
No one's asking you to back him lord knows it's obvious you don't!! All anyone asks is to show a little respect to the president and give him a chance. You've come on here and made outlandish accusations as though they are fact. I didn't agree with many of W's policies but he deserved respect. I know it's impossible for conseratives to show respect to anyone who does not believe the way they do but it would be nice if you could try!!

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that would be ok if we agreed with his policies, but alot of us don't agree with his policies. why do we all have to back him? we have never been asked for everyone to unite behind a president before. Is it because he is black? Are you racist? I don't like their team. I think all the politicians should be fired and start over.



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Grady - A historic day for America took place yesterday.   I was impressed that there were no arrests in the record crowd yesterday, 1.8 million npeople attended.   Time to pull together for peace and prosperity for our great nation don't you think?   For the next four years, we should all be on the same team!


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Great its over/now we hear him telling us not to expect to much to start with.How dishonest is that. I remember he knew how to do everything at the time to vote!!!!!Dont think MCcain   told that   lie just to get votes..And whats up with all the blacks going crazy about the first black president.Is he not 1/2 WHITE.Do get me wrong / i hope he can excite people to get on with their lifes and turn the TV off.Sometimes its not that change is better ,just needed to excite people. Oh yea how about the millons spent on the show. We really could of used that monies here in NC.. GO FIG ????

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Let me tell you a little something, Mr. Scott was a friend of my dad and grandfather. I respect Mr. Scott because he didn't expect anything from anyone. He worked to get what he had. My grandfather told me so many stories of how great a person and mechanic Mr. Scott was. People like you play the double standard. Which race has it's own; colleges, schools, banks, beauty pagents, television shows, award shows, and government programs to give them money for just being who they are? Don't talk to me about racism. I see it every day on both sides. Thing is the blacks can get away with it. Just like the reverend yesterday blaming the whites for everything again in his speech. I have always treated everyone equal. I have black friends(who don't think much of Obama), whites, and hispanics. I have put my health and safety on the line for them at times and jobs on the line for them. So don't you dare open your mouth about racism. The racists in this world are people like you going around throwing the racial card everywhere you go to get what you want. When you realize you are the problem, then things will get better. It goes both ways.

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No one's asking you to back him lord knows it's obvious you don't!! All anyone asks is to show a little respect to the president and give him a chance. You've come on here and made outlandish accusations as though they are fact. I didn't agree with many of W's policies but he deserved respect. I know it's impossible for conseratives to show respect to anyone who does not believe the way they do but it would be nice if you could try!!

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Posted by: speedym         on January 21, 2009 at 12:24pm
        In Reply to: Obama by Will Robertson - NC on January 21, 2009 at 11:23am        

that would be ok if we agreed with his policies, but alot of us don't agree with his policies. why do we all have to back him? we have never been asked for everyone to unite behind a president before. Is it because he is black? Are you racist? I don't like their team. I think all the politicians should be fired and start over.



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Posted by: Will Robertson - NC         on January 21, 2009 at 11:23am
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Grady - A historic day for America took place yesterday.   I was impressed that there were no arrests in the record crowd yesterday, 1.8 million npeople attended.   Time to pull together for peace and prosperity for our great nation don't you think?   For the next four years, we should all be on the same team!


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Posted by: Grady         on January 21, 2009 at 10:10am
               

Great its over/now we hear him telling us not to expect to much to start with.How dishonest is that. I remember he knew how to do everything at the time to vote!!!!!Dont think MCcain   told that   lie just to get votes..And whats up with all the blacks going crazy about the first black president.Is he not 1/2 WHITE.Do get me wrong / i hope he can excite people to get on with their lifes and turn the TV off.Sometimes its not that change is better ,just needed to excite people. Oh yea how about the millons spent on the show. We really could of used that monies here in NC.. GO FIG ????

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So now the Bush haters and Republican bashers are happy now and want everyone to be one with them. Not after the mean spirited disrespectful way they treated President Bush yesterday.
Further more if we are supposed to pull together, why is Pelosi wanting to preosecute President Bush.
Obama yesterday spoke against those who cling to power with corruption and deciet, he was describing his party and cabinet picks.
Obamas failures are Americas victories. His will is ill will for America. He already today stoped tribunals against his buddies in Gitmo and is working out their release. Believe me, they will be here in America, I am talking about the Talabans hardest terrorist whos religion is the death of me and you. The 2 Obama clowns ( Barrak and Michelle) refused to pay tribute at ground zero during the campaign for a reason. The only grief the Obamas have for 9-11 is the death of the terrorists.


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This just proves who is racist in this country and it isn't White people. All of a sudden we are all supposed to smile and embrace this so called new "Black" president because he is labeled black ? Why haven't all these blacks been supporting our Presidents all along ? That's an easy one to answer !!!

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No one's asking you to back him lord knows it's obvious you don't!! All anyone asks is to show a little respect to the president and give him a chance. You've come on here and made outlandish accusations as though they are fact. I didn't agree with many of W's policies but he deserved respect. I know it's impossible for conseratives to show respect to anyone who does not believe the way they do but it would be nice if you could try!!

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Posted by: speedym         on January 21, 2009 at 12:24pm
        In Reply to: Obama by Will Robertson - NC on January 21, 2009 at 11:23am        

that would be ok if we agreed with his policies, but alot of us don't agree with his policies. why do we all have to back him? we have never been asked for everyone to unite behind a president before. Is it because he is black? Are you racist? I don't like their team. I think all the politicians should be fired and start over.



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Posted by: Will Robertson - NC         on January 21, 2009 at 11:23am
        In Reply to: Obama by Grady on January 21, 2009 at 10:10am        

Grady - A historic day for America took place yesterday.   I was impressed that there were no arrests in the record crowd yesterday, 1.8 million npeople attended.   Time to pull together for peace and prosperity for our great nation don't you think?   For the next four years, we should all be on the same team!


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Posted by: Grady         on January 21, 2009 at 10:10am
               

Great its over/now we hear him telling us not to expect to much to start with.How dishonest is that. I remember he knew how to do everything at the time to vote!!!!!Dont think MCcain   told that   lie just to get votes..And whats up with all the blacks going crazy about the first black president.Is he not 1/2 WHITE.Do get me wrong / i hope he can excite people to get on with their lifes and turn the TV off.Sometimes its not that change is better ,just needed to excite people. Oh yea how about the millons spent on the show. We really could of used that monies here in NC.. GO FIG ????

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Desperate people do desperate things!! Things not going well on the ARmstrong/WWCG site hmmm. All people are not idiots, they know cults when they see them! BTW - you may transfer LOL

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i think you bob barney need to stop bashing obama give the man a chance for the last 8 years bush and the republicans have screwed this country up it will probally take 10 or 12 years to straighten it out but i think obama is the right man for the job you cant just snap your fingers and make everything better it is going to take time and obama has said that from the time he started running for president he is trying to do whats best for everyone not just one group of people(the rich)you can say what you want to but the reason this country is in such bad shape is the war in iraq billions of dollars for every week over dont takea genius to figure out where the money is going and this is one thing you can blame bush for it was his call to go over there and its his call to stay over there and by this time next year it will be the peoples president obama that will stop the "war of nothing" i dont expect you will post this on your one sided political oppinion message board but i hope you will read it

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Posted by: speedym         on January 21, 2009 at 12:24pm
        In Reply to: Obama by Will Robertson - NC on January 21, 2009 at 11:23am        

that would be ok if we agreed with his policies, but alot of us don't agree with his policies. why do we all have to back him? we have never been asked for everyone to unite behind a president before. Is it because he is black? Are you racist? I don't like their team. I think all the politicians should be fired and start over.



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Posted by: Will Robertson - NC         on January 21, 2009 at 11:23am
        In Reply to: Obama by Grady on January 21, 2009 at 10:10am        

Grady - A historic day for America took place yesterday.   I was impressed that there were no arrests in the record crowd yesterday, 1.8 million npeople attended.   Time to pull together for peace and prosperity for our great nation don't you think?   For the next four years, we should all be on the same team!


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Posted by: Grady         on January 21, 2009 at 10:10am
               

Great its over/now we hear him telling us not to expect to much to start with.How dishonest is that. I remember he knew how to do everything at the time to vote!!!!!Dont think MCcain   told that   lie just to get votes..And whats up with all the blacks going crazy about the first black president.Is he not 1/2 WHITE.Do get me wrong / i hope he can excite people to get on with their lifes and turn the TV off.Sometimes its not that change is better ,just needed to excite people. Oh yea how about the millons spent on the show. We really could of used that monies here in NC.. GO FIG ????

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Posted by: Will Robertson - NC         on January 21, 2009 at 11:23am
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Grady - A historic day for America took place yesterday.   I was impressed that there were no arrests in the record crowd yesterday, 1.8 million npeople attended.   Time to pull together for peace and prosperity for our great nation don't you think?   For the next four years, we should all be on the same team!


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Posted by: Grady         on January 21, 2009 at 10:10am
               

Great its over/now we hear him telling us not to expect to much to start with.How dishonest is that. I remember he knew how to do everything at the time to vote!!!!!Dont think MCcain   told that   lie just to get votes..And whats up with all the blacks going crazy about the first black president.Is he not 1/2 WHITE.Do get me wrong / i hope he can excite people to get on with their lifes and turn the TV off.Sometimes its not that change is better ,just needed to excite people. Oh yea how about the millons spent on the show. We really could of used that monies here in NC.. GO FIG ????

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Posted by: Grady         on January 21, 2009 at 10:10am
               

Great its over/now we hear him telling us not to expect to much to start with.How dishonest is that. I remember he knew how to do everything at the time to vote!!!!!Dont think MCcain   told that   lie just to get votes..And whats up with all the blacks going crazy about the first black president.Is he not 1/2 WHITE.Do get me wrong / i hope he can excite people to get on with their lifes and turn the TV off.Sometimes its not that change is better ,just needed to excite people. Oh yea how about the millons spent on the show. We really could of used that monies here in NC.. GO FIG ????

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