BobBarney
A Good Read on The Sabbath Day
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ASTEC
Interesting.
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BobBarney
Thanks for the answer!  Making my day easier!!!! Right on the mark too.

R wrote:
I think that Bob already answered that quite well enough but perhaps you missed it:

"If this translation of verse 10 is taken at face value, it seems to say that Satan will be cast into a lake of fire to be tortured for eternity. But, does the phrase for ever and ever mean an eternity in the original Greek language?

"For Ever and Ever

"The English phrase for ever and ever in verse 10 is a gross mis-translation of the original Greek phrase eis tous aeonas ton aionon, which means, 'to the ages of the ages'. A more correct translation of verse 10 is as follows:

“'And the devil who deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and false prophet were. And shall be tormented day and night until the age of ages.'

"Satan will not endure everlasting punishing; he will have his existence terminated; he will cease to exist forever. The age spoken of in verse 10 is the termination of an age. It is the time when the existence of physical humans on earth will end. Moreover, it is a time when a new age will begin and the mystery of what God is doing here on earth will be revealed."
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I think that Bob already answered that quite well enough but perhaps you missed it:

"If this translation of verse 10 is taken at face value, it seems to say that Satan will be cast into a lake of fire to be tortured for eternity. But, does the phrase for ever and ever mean an eternity in the original Greek language?

"For Ever and Ever

"The English phrase for ever and ever in verse 10 is a gross mis-translation of the original Greek phrase eis tous aeonas ton aionon, which means, 'to the ages of the ages'. A more correct translation of verse 10 is as follows:

“'And the devil who deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and false prophet were. And shall be tormented day and night until the age of ages.'

"Satan will not endure everlasting punishing; he will have his existence terminated; he will cease to exist forever. The age spoken of in verse 10 is the termination of an age. It is the time when the existence of physical humans on earth will end. Moreover, it is a time when a new age will begin and the mystery of what God is doing here on earth will be revealed."
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Anonymous
Thanks for this great discussion board!  I love it!  How would you answer this seemingly contradiction?

The Judgment of Satan

When the thousand years are over, Satan will be released from his prison and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth—Gog and Magog—and to gather them for battle. In number they are like the sand on the seashore.They marched across the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of God’s people, the city he loves. But fire came down from heaven and devoured them.10 And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur,where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

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Yes indeed, that is quite the full Truth. Thank you for that terrific comment, Bob! I am very glad indeed to see that there are those who have that better understanding.

I have added a clarification.
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BobBarney
I like much of Dankenbring's works, however the conclusion of this book about Satan is absolutely wrong!   The error comes from the idea of immortality.   As many has learned, there is no immortal soul for humans, and when we die, we are dead!   the Bible is clear that ONLY GOD has immortality!  Satan may think he is an immortal God, but he is not! The Plain Truth is Satan and all of the demons who followed him will be destroyed, just like humans who refuse to accept God will be destroyed!  Part of Satan's great lie is that he can't die!  

From: my brother-in-law's best selling books Divine Secret - shocked by the Bible 1 and 2

Hebrews 2:14New King James Version (NKJV)

14 Inasmuch then as the children have partaken of flesh and blood, He Himself likewise shared in the same, that through death He might destroy him who had the power of death, that is, the devil,
Notice demons know they will die: “And there was in their synagogue a man with an unclean spirit; and he cried out, Saying, Let us alone; what have we to do with you, you Jesus of Nazareth? are you come to destroy us? I know you, you are the Holy One of God”(Mk.1:23-24 KJV; Lk.4:33-35).
 
 
from bible research.com
SATAN'S PUNISHMENT
 
“And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season” (Rev.20:1-3 KJV). See also Isa.24:21-22.
 
At the beginning of the millennium, this powerful evil being will be bound and held in a prison for a thousand years, after which he will be released for a short time. But what will happen to him after his release? Will he be allowed to continue his existence or will he be destroyed?
 
“When the thousand years are over, Satan will be released from prison and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth—Gog and Magog—to gather them for battle. In number they are like the sand on the seashore. They marched across the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of God's people, the city he loves. But fire came down from heaven and devoured them. And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever” (Rev.20:7-10 NIV).
 
If this translation of verse 10 is taken at face value, it seems to say that Satan will be cast into a lake of fire to be tortured for eternity. But, does the phrase for ever and ever mean an eternity in the original Greek language?
 
For Ever and Ever
 
The English phrase for ever and ever in verse 10 is a gross mis-translation of the original Greek phrase eis tous aeonas ton aionon, which means, 'to the ages of the ages'. A more correct translation of verse 10 is as follows:
 
“And the devil who deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and false prophet were. And shall be tormented day and night until the age of ages.”
 
Satan will not endure everlasting punishing; he will have his existence terminated; he will cease to exist forever. The age spoken of in verse 10 is the termination of an age. It is the time when the existence of physical humans on earth will end. Moreover, it is a time when a new age will begin and the mystery of what God is doing here on earth will be revealed.
 
Satan Will Die
 
After Adam and Eve had eaten the forbidden fruit, the Creator God gave a prophecy about the termination of Satan's existence:
 
“And I will put enmity [separation] between you and the woman, and between your seed and her seed; it shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise his heel” (Gen.3:15 KJV). The woman's seed is a reference to Christ.
 
The Hebrew word for bruise' is 'shoof ', which means 'to crush' or 'strike at'. Because Satan is referred to as a serpent, it makes sense that Satan is the serpent that would try to distroy the Savior. Almost all Bible scholars agree that this verse is speaking about the Savior who will come and triumph over Satan. Satan would strike at the heel and damage it a little bit. But, Christ will crush the head of Satan; thereby, he will destroy him.
 
“And the God of peace shall bruise Satan under your feet shortly. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you. Amen” (Rom.16:20 KJV).
 
The Greek word suntribo translated as bruise in verse 20 means 'to crush' or 'to completely shatter.' In other words, it means 'to destroy'.
 
“Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil” (Heb.2:14 KJV). See also 2.Thes.2:8.
 
In verse 14, the English word destroy is a translation of the Greek word katargeo, which comes from the root argeo, which means 'to render entirely useless.' It can also mean 'to abolish''to cease''to vanish away', or 'to utterly destroy'. Christ will utterly destroy Satan.
 
There is nothing in the Greek word katargeo that indicates anything other than destruction; it does not show that Satan will continue to live. Indeed, it indicates he will be utterly destroyed. Verse 14 also shows that Jesus has the power to destroy Satan.
“And I have set you so: you were upon the holy mountain of God; you have walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. You were perfect in your ways from the day that you were created, till iniquity [lawlessness] was found in you. By the multitude of your merchandise they have filled the midst of you with violence, and you have sinned: therefore I will cast you as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy you, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire” (Ezk.28:14-16 KJV).
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CLARIFICATION: On page 126 it states as part of its final conclusion: "For all practical purposes [Satan & the other demons] will cease to exist." This is a closer understanding of the Truth than was taught by the WWCG and so is a step up but it nevertheless does NOT go far enough. Dankenbring conflates (if you will) conditional immortality with invulnerability. Angels exist continually since their creation but that continued existence is only by the concurrent manifestation of God's will and power and if He sentences some of them to death for their wickedness, death it shall be.

Utter, absolute non-existence!

Not anything short of that.

(For more clarification be sure to see the first two comments which are at the bottom of the Comments Section located immediately above this area.)

SATAN'S FATE

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