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Excellent articles, I never could understand what anybody thought would be good about the day our savior died thanks
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PS  I urge all to go to this website and play around with dates!

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The answer is quite plain. He rose Saturday night (gone by Sunday morn) and since he would be dead for 3 days and 3 nights, he died Weds! 
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Here is the quote and the source:
"I personally believe he was crucified on Wednesday evening ... and rose after 6 p.m. Saturday evening," Jerry Falwell tells WorldNetDaily. 

hhttp://www.wnd.com/2008/03/57978/
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Yeshua's Resurrection When?
Havienu L'Shalom - Hebrew Calendar
Hebrew Year 4030, Jewish Calendar Year 3790 years from Adam
Note 240 years removed from Jewish Calendar in 135 CE

The algorithms for hebcal ver. 3.10 were taken from Emacs 19's calendar routines 
by Edward M. Reingold and Nachum Dershowitz. http://www.knowledgengineers.com/Havienu/html/vestibule/hebcalmonthview.html
 
Documentation and References at the end of this Article

April in the Year 30 AD

Sun

Monday

Tue

Wed

Thurs

Fri

Sat

11 
Nisan 
3790


12 
Nisan
 3790 


13 
Nisan 3790 


14 
Nisan
 
3790 
5:19
Ta'anit Bechorot
CRUCIFIXION 

Erev Pesach 

4 
15 
Nisan 
3790 
5:20 
Pesach I


16 
Nisan
3790 
5:21
Pesach II

6 
17 
Nisan
 3790 
Havdalah: 7:13 
Pesach III
RESURRECTION 
AT SUNSET, 
EXACTLY 72
HOURS LATER


18 
Nisan
 3790 
Pesach IV
FEAST OF
FIRSTFRUITS


19 
Nisan
 3790
Pesach V


20 
Nisan
 3790 
5:2
Pesach VI

10 
21 
Nisan
 3790 
5:24 
Pesach VII 

11 
22 
Nisan
 3790 
Havdalah: 7:17 

12 
23 
Nisan
 3790 
5:25 

13 
24 
Nisan
 3790 
Havdalah: 7:18 
Shmini 

14 
25 
Nisan 
3790

15 
26 
Nisan
 3790

16 
27 
Nisan
 3790

17 
28 
Nisan
 3790

18 
29
Nisan 3790

19 
30 
Nisan
 3790 
Rosh
Chodesh 
6:30 

20 
1 
Iyyar
 3790 
Rosh Chodesh 
Havdalah: 8:23 
Tazria-Metzora 

21 
2 
Iyyar
 3790 

22 
3 
Iyyar
 3790 

23 
4 
Iyyar
 3790

24 

Iyyar 3790

25 

Iyyar 3790

26 
7 
Iyyar
 3790 
6:35 

27 
8 
Iyyar
 3790 
Havdalah: 8:28 

28 
9 
Iyyar
 3790 

29 
10 
Iyyar
 3790

30 
11 
Iyyar
 3790

 

 

 

 

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Wednesday

Thursday

Friday

Saturday

This calendar, for the month of April and/or Nisan (YEAR 30 A.D.), has Nisan 14 on Wednesday, APRIL 3RD. Here is what is amazing. Pontius Pilate wrote to the Roman Emperor, in an attempt to explain the reason for having Yeshua, Jesus, crucified. Pontius Pilate wrote the letter, and at the end of the letter, he dates the writing: "THE 5TH OF THE CALENDS OF APRIL." The word "Calends" has reference to the first of a month, thus it appears to mean the 5th day of the beginning of April.

Since this letter is in the British Museum in London, it appears authentic. This means that whenever Nisan 14, the day of the crucifixion, was ------ it had to be BEFORE APRIL 5TH !! 
This authenticates the year of 30 AD, when according to the above calendar, Nisan 14 was on APRIL 3 --- JUST TWO DAYS BEFORE THE LETTER WAS WRITTEN ON APRIL 5TH. That is the calendar shown above. It makes perfect sense that Pontius Pilate would, almost immediately, (2 days later), write the Emperor, explaining what he did, and try to explain why.

Crucifixion ................Resurrection

29AD 

Nisan 14 

Saturday

April 14

Nisan 17

Tuesday

April 17

30AD

Nisan 14

Wednesday 

April 3

Nisan 17 

Saturday

April 6

31AD

Nisan 14

Monday

March 24 

Nisan 17

Thursday 

March 27

32AD

Nisan 14

Monday

April 12

Nisan 17

Thursday

April 15

33AD

Nisan 14

Friday

April 1

Nisan 17

Monday

April 4

One of the most well known facts of history is the death, burial, and resurrection of Yeshua the Messiah, Jesus the Christ. Scholars have long argued the time frame between 29 AD and 33 AD as the time of the crucifixion and resurrection of the Messiah. It is one of the most well documented facts of history that He died on a Roman Cross, and in 3 days rose again from the dead. There has always been a cloud of uncertainty regarding the exact day and year. The fact of the resurrection of the Messiah gives a blessed hope to all mankind. 

Computers are great tools for study, research, and calculations. Modern calendar computer programs, some of which were developed for the space program and astronomy, have allowed us to know the exact date for these most historic events.

We can now know that there is only one date that agrees with all the Gospel accounts. That date agrees with our modern Roman Gregorian calendar, Hebrew calendar, the modified Jewish calendar, and also the letter of Pontius Pilot, written on April 5, 30 AD.

The Messiah died on a Roman cross in Jerusalem on Nisan 14 at 3:00pm, on Wednesday, April 3, in 30AD. In 3 days and 3 nights, exactly 72 hours later, on the Sabbath at 3pm, Saturday, April 6, in 30 AD, Yeshua the Messiah rose from the dead. The Lord of the Sabbath, rose from the dead on the Sabbath, Nisan 17, on Saturday, April 6, 30 AD.

This is important because it proves that God never did change the 4th Commandment. It proves that the pope and others who honor Lucifer's sun god with their Sunday services should consider how their traditions have made the COMMAND of God, of no effect. 

Mat 12:39-40 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas: For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

Mark 16:2 And very early in the morning the first day of the week, they came unto the sepulchre at the rising of the sun.

When they got to the tomb before daylight Sunday, He was already risen. When did He rise? That depends upon when He was crucified and put into the tomb. When careful research and study is done one finds that Passover, or the day of preparation, the 14th of Nisan, when Messiah Yeshua, (Christ Jesus), was crucified was on Wednesday. He said "It is finished": and He bowed His head, and gave up the ghost, at about the 9th hour, or 3:00pm, Wednesday, Nisan 14, in 30 AD. The Perfect Passover Lamb of God, by His Precious Blood, totally defeated Satan, and Redeemed the fullness of the earth which He had created. Had the princes of this world known, they would not have crucified the Lord of Glory. 

Obviously, since He was in the earth 3 days and 3 nights, being crucified on Wednesday, it was Wednesday night, Thursday, Thursday night, Friday, Friday night, Saturday. He rose on Saturday, the Sabbath, The Lord's Day. Yes, Yeshua the Messiah, Jesus Christ, arose from the dead on Saturday, the Sabbath.

Let us take a look at the Passover, in which God instructs Moses, with this feast of the Lord, to teach how He would PassOver in judgment, those who were protected by the blood. Messiah is our Passover. On the 10th of Nisan a lamb was taken into the house to be observed for perfection till the evening of the day of preparation or Passover, which was always on the 14th of Nisan. The lamb was then killed in the evening, at 3:00pm, and the blood applied to the door of the house. It was that application of the blood of the lamb, (Messiah is our Passover, The Lamb of God), that would protect them from the judgment of death.

Exo 12:6 And ye shall keep it (the spotless lamb), up until the fourteenth day of the same month: and the whole assembly of the congregation of Israel shall kill it in the evening. (Yeshua died in the 9th hour, or 3:00pm on Nisan 14) 
Exo 12:7 And they shall take of the blood, and strike it on the two side posts and on the upper door post of the houses, wherein they shall eat it.

During the feast of Unleavened bread the first day, Nisan 15 is a sabbath, (day of rest), and the Saturday during the feast of unleavened bread is a high sabbath.

Lev 23:6 And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread unto the LORD: seven days ye must eat unleavened bread.
Lev 23:7 In the first day ye shall have an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein.

Thursday, the day after Yeshua was crucified was Nisan 15, the first day of unleavened bread, and a sabbath, where no servile work could be done and that was the reason for the rushed burial in Joseph of Arimathaea's tomb. The rushed burial had to be completed before evening. The first day of unlevened bread, required sabbath rest. That Thursday Sabbath, of the first day of unleavened bread, began at sundown. Therefore we again see that Yeshua Messiah was in the tomb Wednesday night, Thursday, Thursday night, Friday, Friday night, and Saturday. When Mary went to the tomb as early as it was possible to do the work of applying the spices to the body of Yeshua, as soon as the Saturday Sabbath was over, before it was daylight on the first day of the week, she found the tomb empty and Yeshua already risen on Saturday, the Sabbath, The Lord's Day.

Mat 27:57 When the even was come, there came a rich man of Arimathaea, named Joseph, who also himself was Jesus' disciple:
Mat 27:58 He went to Pilate, and begged the body of Jesus. Then Pilate commanded the body to be delivered.
Mat 27:59 And when Joseph had taken the body, he wrapped it in a clean linen cloth,
Mat 27:60 And laid it in his own new tomb, which he had hewn out in the rock: and he rolled a great stone to the door of the sepulchre, and departed.
Mat 27:61 And there was Mary Magdalene, and the other Mary, sitting over against the sepulchre.
Mat 27:62 Now the next day, that followed 
the day of the preparation, the chief priests and Pharisees came together unto Pilate,
Mat 27:63 Saying, Sir, we remember that that deceiver said, while he was yet alive, 
After three days I will rise again.
Mat 27:64 Command therefore that the sepulchre be made sure until the third day, lest his disciples come by night, and steal him away, and say unto the people, He is risen from the dead: so the last error shall be worse than the first.
Mat 27:65 Pilate said unto them, Ye have a watch: go your way, make it as sure as ye can.
Mat 27:66 So they went, and made the sepulchre sure, sealing the stone, and setting a watch.
Mat 28:1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.
Mat 28:2 And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it.
Mat 28:3 His countenance was like lightning, and his raiment white as snow:
Mat 28:4 And for fear of him the keepers did shake, and became as dead men.
Mat 28:5 And the angel answered and said unto the women, Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified.
Mat 28:6 
He is not here: for he is risen, as he said. Come, see the place where the Lord lay.

Before dawn on Sunday, Yeshua had already risen. He rose on Saturday, having spent 3 days and 3 nights in the tomb. He rose on Saturday, the Sabbath, the Lord's Day.

Luke 23:50 And, behold, there was a man named Joseph, a counsellor; and he was a good man, and a just:
Luke 23:51 (The same had not consented to the counsel and deed of them[wink] he was of Arimathaea, a city of the Jews: who also himself waited for the kingdom of God.
Luke 23:52 This man went unto Pilate, and begged the body of Jesus.
Luke 23:53 And he took it down, and wrapped it in linen, and laid it in a sepulchre that was hewn in stone, wherein never man before was laid.
Luke 23:54 And that day was the preparation, and the sabbath drew on.
Luke 23:55 And the women also, which came with him from Galilee, followed after, and beheld the sepulchre, and how his body was laid.
Luke 23:56 And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the sabbath day according to the commandment.
Luke 24:1 Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them.
Luke 24:2 And they found the stone rolled away from the sepulchre.
Luke 24:3 And they entered in, and found not the body of the Lord Jesus.

When they arrived very early, before daylight on Sunday, they found that Yeshua had already risen.

 

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The article ("Was Jesus Christ crucified on a Friday?") is just as inaccurate as the traditional teaching of the so-called "Christian" world. This article does get one thing right though, the fact that Jesus Christ was NOT crucified on a Friday. But that's about the only thing that this author gets right concerning the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, as just about everything else mentioned in this article is inaccurate. Jesus was NOT crucified on a Wednesday as the UCG, LCG, PCG, etc. teach. So which day was Jesus crucified on if it wasn't Wednesday or Friday? Though there are MANY Scriptures that PROVE which day Jesus was crucified, the clearest and plainest of them all is Luke 24:20-21. If you are able to read these two Scriptures with an unbiased and open mind the answer to this question will be so obvious that you will be astonished that you never saw this before. I would recommend though, that before you turn to these two Scriptures, that you say a little prayer first, asking our heavenly Father to help you SEE the TRUTH concerning this topic and to allow you to read these two Scriptures with an unbiased mind and a sincere heart, and with a mind opened to the truth of God. And after reading these two Scriptures, if you would like more information concerning the death and resurrection of Christ, please feel free to go to my website (www.TheBibleComesAlive.com). On my website I have a short article on this topic ("When Was Jesus Crucified? Context! Context! Context!) as well a booklet ("When Was Jesus Crucified?") that goes into much more depth and that proves beyond a shadow of a doubt the REAL day that Jesus Christ was crucified on. 
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Bob, here are the only dates possible in the covered years.

Hebrew Year (AM)

Christian Year (AD)

(Gregorian) Date of Nisan 14

Day of Week

Jesus's Age

3789

29

Apr. 14

Saturday

33½

3790

30

Apr. 3

Wednesday

34½

3791

31

Mar. 24

Monday

35½

3792

32

Apr. 12

Monday

36½

3793

33

Apr. 1

Friday

37½

3794

34

Mar. 20

Monday

38½

3795

35

Apr. 9

Monday

39½

3796

36

Mar. 28

Friday

40½


As I doubt such a late time as AD 36, we have in reality  ONLY these years
AD 30  ( A weds) or AD 33  a Friday.  Both a Weds and Thurs day of death are possible.  I have favored the Thursday date myself because of Luke 24, but admit your "prefect calendar" theory has me wondering.  Also it is impossible to fit in 72 hours on the Thursday, but I am not sure that is necessary. 


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No one scripture should ever be used to try and promote a theory.  Thursday was in all probability NOT the day of the crucifixion, as it does not fulfill the three days and three nights.  The day DOES NOT start in the evening as the Babylonians and sons of darkness propose (Jews). It begins in the morning (hence the times of the crucifixion was at the third hour (9  AM and the death at the ninth hour (3 PM).

Other reasons:
Christ did not celebrate an "early" Passover as many propose.  In Fact, he celebrated the correct Passover on the Correct Day!  God does not change, and He doesn't Change the date of His Passover!   Man changes God's Laws and calendar, and hence the Jews of the time followed the wrong Calendar!  Any search of history shows this.

The Essene Passover was always on a Tuesday Night!  That being said alone does not suffice, but it shows different calendars were followed by the Essene community, The Pharissees, and Saduccees were all on different calendars.    http://www.bibarch.com/concepts/calendrics/essene_calendar.htm

Now there is only one date between AD 26 and AD 36 (when Pilate ruled Judah) when a Passover  fell on a Thursday, and The Essene fell on a Tuesday, and God's perfect Passover fell on a Tuesday as well.  That was AD 30.  In that year The 14th of the Jewish Nissan fell on Thursday, the 13th (Weds) but in the perfect calendar of God, it fell on a Tuesday (April 2 is the date of the perfect date of Passover.)  God is the ultimate mathematician: His calendar is perfect, as everything He creates is in perfection. 

Reading the Bible as a whole, one can conclude the real date (in our calendar) of the Passover of Christ was Tuesday April 2, 30 AD (It also was an Essene Passover).

Again From:  http://www.bibarch.com/concepts/calendrics/essene_calendar.htm

One of the elements leading to Jaubert's research dealt with the dating of the Last Supper and the day of the Crucifixion. She writes:

The date of the Last Supper is linked with the problem of the day of Jesus' death, a question which has occupied exegetes since the end of the second century. In the present work a new solution is proposed, based on an ancient Jewish calendar, recently discovered, and on an Eastern patristic tradition which has all at once been illuminated by the new calendar. (Jaubert 1965:9.)

Benedictine scholar and archaeologist Bargil Pixner, who lived on Mt. Sion in the Dormition Abby, agreed holding that Jesus' Last Supper occurred on a Tuesday night but adding that it took place in the guesthouse of the Essene community on Mt. Zion in Jerusalem. "To my mind" writes Pixner "this took place in the Essene guesthouse on Mount Zion on the Tuesday night" (Pixner 1992:64; see also Pixner 197619901997).

Richard Mackowski, concurring, held that this "must have been a very simple dining hall in keeping with the simple life of the Essenes" (Mackowski 1980:141). In his thinking, the "site, therefore, must be secure, for it has been the only candidate for the Cenacle (Coenaculum or dining hall) from primitive Christianity until today" (Mackowski 1980:145).

Mackowski concluded, from his topographical study of the site of the Upper Room, that the Last Supper did indeed take place in the Essene dining hall on Mt. Sion from where Jesus and his followers "walked down from the Upper City’s Essene quarter, using the steps still visible beside the Chapel of Peter-in-Gallicantu on the eastern slope of Mt. Zion (Mackowski 1980:164). Moreover, he stated that:

According to Pixner, who recently has reexamined the area thoroughly, the steps leading up from the Church of St. Peter-in-Gallicantu, on the eastern slope of Mt. Zion, led up towards a point identified as the most likely spot for a doorway or a vestibule of an ancient house. This door would have opened towards a platform leading to a house whose level would correspond to a second story upper room. (Mackowski 1980:145.)

Mackowski, independently of Bargil Pixner’s study of the area (Pixner 1976), concluded that the material evidence on Mt. Zion, in the light of textual analysis, was not only the mahaneh (the camp) of the Essenes during the time of Jesus but also the birthplace of this sect in Jerusalem (Mackowski 1980:63).

While Jaubert and Pixner saw the Last Supper, a Passover ceremony, on a Tuesday night they held that the Crucifixion occurred the following Friday. This would not only accommodate the Sunday resurrection tradition but would allow three days for the incarceration and trial of Jesus of Nazareth. There are major problems with that theory and a remarkable solution to the Passion Week chronology (see The Last Seder: Unscrambling Its Baffling Chronology).

 
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Good Friday is a Myth;
Jesus Died on a Wednesday!!
 
by Roy A. Reinhold

 

I was quite blown away recently to hear Hal Lindsey state on his national radio program that he has come to believe that the scriptures show a Wednesday crucifixion. Perhaps you ought to examine the evidence and decide for yourself; be like the Bereans who were complimented in scriptures for examining the teaching of Paul in light of the scriptures to see if it was so. There is clear, concrete evidence in the scriptures for a Wednesday crucifixion; you be the judge.

3 DAYS AND 3 NIGHTS IN THE HEART OF THE EARTH
http://ad2004.com/prophecytruths/Articles/Prophecy/3days3nights.html

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